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Air&Road · #1 10-05-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

A person is more than a single data point, and while I find his accomplishments compelling, I find many of his statements troubling. He want's a "Great Wall of China" style fence, stocked with alligators? Has no hesitation in saying that people (he doesn't specify who) have the right to ban mosques, but that would not be on religious grounds; claims that we have a superior separation of church and state, yet fails to see his extolling the Christian values inherent in US law as being contradictory.

The mote with alligators comment was a metaphor.

The mosque comment has been trumped up and twisted by the mainstream media. Read his book.

MTI · #2 10-05-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

The mote with alligators comment was a metaphor.

The mosque comment has been trumped up and twisted by the mainstream media. Read his book.

There's no denial he said those things. Now whether "mainsream media" has twisted his words by reporting them, or now your opinions that they were metaphor . . . aren't you just spinning it as well?

The man said what he said and should take responsibility for them. That's what a proper candidate should do, no?

Air&Road · #3 10-05-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

There's no denial he said those things. Now whether "mainsream media" has twisted his words by reporting them, or now your opinions that they were metaphor . . . aren't you just spinning it as well?

The man said what he said and should take responsibility for them. That's what a proper candidate should do, no?

I can accept that as long as the ENTIRE QUOTE is being reported. The media has quite a knack for taking things out of context and printing, showing partial statements.

davidmash · #4 10-05-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

I can accept that as long as the ENTIRE QUOTE is being reported. The media has quite a knack for taking things out of context and printing, showing partial statements.

Kind of llike "I created the internet" and "You can read it after its passed".

Air&Road · #5 10-06-2011, 07:08 AM

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Kind of llike "I created the internet" and "You can read it after its passed".

Yep, you won't find the truth in the mainstream media.

Pelosi: we have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it - YouTube

Honus · #6 10-06-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

Yep, you won't find the truth in the mainstream media.

Pelosi: we have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it - YouTube

You won't find the truth in that youtube clip, either.

Here is her full quote:

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You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.

But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.

The text of the bill has never been hidden. She was referring to the fog of misinformation being spread by people like the one who edited that youtube clip. That fog, according to Pelosi, made it difficult for people to know what the new law would do. Opponents of the bill were saying that all these bad things would happen if it passed. She was making the point that the proof would be in the pudding. Once the bill was passed, people would come to realize that its opponents had been feeding them a bunch of baloney.

That youtube clip is misleading.

Air&Road · #7 10-06-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Honus

You won't find the truth in that youtube clip, either.

Here is her full quote:The text of the bill has never been hidden. She was referring to the fog of misinformation being spread by people like the one who edited that youtube clip. That fog, according to Pelosi, made it difficult for people to know what the new law would do. Opponents of the bill were saying that all these bad things would happen if it passed. She was making the point that the proof would be in the pudding. Once the bill was passed, people would come to realize that its opponents had been feeding them a bunch of baloney.

That youtube clip is misleading.

So what's your point? Is the video a fake? All the other parts of your quote do NOT disspell the fact that this dumb lady expects people to pass a bill BEFORE they find out what is IN the bill! How INSANE can you possibly get?

Honus · #8 10-06-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sjh

I heard her comment as she made it.

She was referring to the fact that no one, not even her, either knew or wished for others to know exactly what was in the bill.

Nice try at re-writing history.

I gave the full quote. How is that re-writing history? What an insulting comment.

You are entitled to your interpretation. Fortunately, we have people here who can read the English language and see what she really said.

pj67coll · #9 10-06-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sjh

I heard her comment as she made it.

She was referring to the fact that no one, not even her, either knew or wished for others to know exactly what was in the bill.

Nice try at re-writing history.

So what you're saying is that nobody either knew the contents of the bill, or even wanted anyone to know that, but pass it anyway. And were supposed to have something other than contempt for these idiots?

- Peter.

Honus · #10 10-05-2011, 10:11 PM

Cain displays a lack of class here:

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"I don’t have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration," Cain said.

Cain to protesters: 'If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself' - The Hill's Video

SwampYankee · #11 10-06-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Honus

Cain displays a lack of class here:

Is

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Take off your bedroom slippers, put on your marching shoes, shake it off, stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying, we are going to press on, we’ve got work to do.

more classy?

Honus · #12 10-06-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SwampYankee

Is
more classy?

That bedroom slipper thing was odd.

Air&Road · #13 10-06-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Honus

That bedroom slipper thing was odd.

Words strike different people in different ways. I think by bedroom slippers he was simply indicating someone lounging around the house instead of out doing something productive.

engatwork · #14 10-06-2011, 02:20 PM

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it will drive him nuts working with such incompetents.

good point

He can't fire em can he?

Wonder how many czars he would put out of work?