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Skippy · #31 12-31-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

They are hiding there loss and depression,trust me they are depressed.

No. They aren't. Psychopathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

aklim · #32 12-31-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Darktech

How do you know this? Do you posess a 6th sense that helps you to determine at what point the fetus becomes a living human with consciousness?

So, now, you compare it to a tumor? So you was a tumor, once?

All I know is that, if left uninterrupted, 'it' will grow into a human baby. That's enough for me to see abortion as murder.

It's nice that you did make my point. Everyone who is pro- choice has that line that they draw into their comfort zone.

Fair enough. What standard does medicine use to declare the patient alive or dead. Use that on the blob of cells, aka fetus. Pass, it is alive, fail and it isn't. The mth is pretty simple.

Yes, I was once a blob of cells. Your point?

It could grow like you say but again, what's your point? I could go to medical school and be a doctor. I could go to astronaut school and be an astronaut. I could go to SEAL school and become a SEAL team member. Till I do all of those things, I am NOT. Till it can be alive, it is NOT. I don't get to call myself Dr XYZ till I pass the boards. I don't get to be an astronaut till I pass the tests. I don't get to wear the trident till I graduate.

I am more pro host. When the woman, aka host decides to say "turn out the lights, the party's over" the party is over. Her body, her rules. When you decide to eject me from your house, I have to go. Doesn't matter if it is 20 below and there isn't a house for 20 miles.

The Clk Man · #33 12-31-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippy

No. They aren't. Psychopathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, they are.

I have talked to enough of them to know.

kerry · #34 12-31-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

What they don't tell the everyone is that 100% of women that have an abortion WILL suffer depression and metal disorders for the remainder of their lives.

Because a British medical society recently published a comprehensive study on the question and showed your statement to be false.

The Clk Man · #35 12-31-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kerry

Because a British medical society recently published a comprehensive study on the question and showed your statement to be false.

Any study can be bought and paid for.

aklim · #36 12-31-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

Any study can be bought and paid for.

Point? Have you proved this one is bought and paid for or are you simply guessing because you don't like the answer?

Psychiatry and psychology are such crazy things, I don't bother to pay them much attention. IMO, they are slightly better than voodoo. Everything with them is a definite maybe.

kerry · #37 12-31-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man

Any study can be bought and paid for.

As a general statement about the nature of scientific studies I guess it is true. Do you have any knowledge about this particular study?

The Clk Man · #38 12-31-2011, 07:05 PM

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As a general statement about the nature of scientific studies I guess it is true. Do you have any knowledge about this particular study?

No, but I do know a lot about human nature. Like why would you bring up a topic like this when most people are just wanting to escape for a little while on new years eve. I know the answer, do you?

kerry · #39 12-31-2011, 07:08 PM

I don't believe it was New Year's Eve when I brought it up. And it was Fox News that brought it up initially, not me.

davidmash · #40 12-31-2011, 07:17 PM

I guess we can just cut to the chase and out law abortions again. That worked so well.

aklim · #41 01-01-2012, 02:35 AM

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No, but I do know a lot about human nature. Like why would you bring up a topic like this when most people are just wanting to escape for a little while on new years eve. I know the answer, do you?

I know a lot about cars too. Somehow, I doubt you would agree that my casual observation is better than what an engineer can prove.

aklim · #42 01-01-2012, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

I guess we can just cut to the chase and out law abortions again. That worked so well.

Yes but not as well as the ban on alcohol.

cmac2012 · #43 01-01-2012, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Darktech

All human intervention to terminate a viable pregnancy is killing babies. It's just where a pro-abortionist chooses to draw the line in their own comfort zone.

Oversimplification. A viable pregnancy at, say, 8 weeks is a fetus, not a baby. It will not become a baby without the voluntary cooperation of the mother. If the woman chooses not to cooperate in the process, she can jump off a house, pummel herself in the stomach, douche with harsh chemicals, you name it. Such things have, in fact, happened many times throughout history.

I think it's tragic that a woman would feel that way but then I've never been in those shoes. After enough young women from influential families die from botched, amateur abortions, people with power decide to make safe abortions available. Then other people get upset about that, start talking about murder and the pendulum swings the other way.

cmac2012 · #44 01-01-2012, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pooka

100%? Nope. I know two women who have had three abortions each and neither of them have given it a second thought.

Now, having said that..... I would not recommend either of these women for anything other than a 'What's in it for me' type concerning every aspect of their lives. Some people care only for the here and now and truly give no thought to tomorrow.

These women have smashed up their cars, cleaned out several ex-husbands and taken advantage of anyone who has ever crossed their paths. (By the way, I only met them through friends who were keeping them as girl friends.)

I guess they would be called Users. Anyway, the topic was 100% of women who have had an abortion will suffer depression. These women only enjoyed the relief an abortion bought them.

By the way: Neither of these women could be described as 'pro-abortion'. To them it was a medical way out of a problem and nothing more. One of them put up her first child for adoption and called it 'a giant hassle'. These women see themselves as the type to hassle others and not to be hassled.

And if anyone is interested: One of them has never voted in her life and the other is a fire-breathing Republican. The fire-breather told me working in elections is the best way to meet rich guys.

Yes, as sad as it seems.... There are some people like that.

And these women between them failed to treat the world to three offspring each?!? Oh the humanity, oh the loss to the world.

aklim · #45 01-01-2012, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Oversimplification. A viable pregnancy at, say, 8 weeks is a fetus, not a baby. It will not become a baby without the voluntary cooperation of the mother. If the woman chooses not to cooperate in the process, she can jump off a house, pummel herself in the stomach, douche with harsh chemicals, you name it. Such things have, in fact, happened many times throughout history.

I think it's tragic that a woman would feel that way but then I've never been in those shoes. After enough young women from influential families die from botched, amateur abortions, people with power decide to make safe abortions available. Then other people get upset about that, start talking about murder and the pendulum swings the other way.

The only issue is viability outside the womb as far as I see. Why? Simply because we cannot simply transfer the fetus to someone else. Fact is, the woman is the host for the organism. If she decides to stop playing host, it is her body. Similarly, I cannot force you to entertain someone you don't like so why should you be able to force that woman to continue hosting the fetus? If the fetus is viable, extract it and let it go on it's way. If it isn't, "Her house, her rules".