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Brian Carlton · #16 11-03-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

Not at all a M/S devotee, I run nearly as much linux as I do M/S. By your logic we should all still be using kerosene lamps and typewriters. I doubt your profession (or numerous others) would exist as it does were it not for constant change and innovation, so why is this not allowed in IT?

Innovate all you wish. Some people will need the innovation and flock to it like flies to shlt. Most others, however, will be perfectly satisfied with the "old" technology because it works perfectly well for them and they don't need to spend the time and money on equipment and software that they cannot use.

Unfortunately, you fail to see the benefits of older systems to most folks and instantly recommend new hardware to cure any and all ills. You made a blanket statement that 2GB is insufficient to run Chrome and you were dead wrong. The problem was not the 2GB, it was the Chrome browser itself. Pick a different browser and the problem disappears. You failed to even consider this possibility.

Didn't you drive an older SD and your father also drives an older SD? Why change your philosophy that "new" is better when it comes to vehicles? You're so disingenuous that you'll recommend brand new IT hardware at the drop of the hat but won't consider a brand new automobile for exactly the same reasons. This is hypocritical beyond the pale.

cmbdiesel · #17 11-03-2012, 09:53 AM

I have used my SD to power my old Toughbook running XP....

Mostly the computers I buy are lease returns, so I tend to be a year or so behind the curve.
Except for my laptops, they are older than that. Basically each of my laptops has a specific job to do, and as long as they run, are stable and complete their tasks, I will not replace them.
Long ago I decided to use multiple machines, each with one task, but each able to perform any of the tasks (basically one runs audio analyzing software, one performs playback, and one records).
I have had people scoff at my arrangement, whip out their latest and greatest laptop du jour that can DO EVERYTHING!!!, then get all bound up when their machine freezes and they are dead in the water.
I suppose if someone else were paying, I would like to have all brand new gear, but by using older machines, I am able to maintain a level of redundancy which I would not like to trade away.

I did have to get the company to upgrade my work laptop due to software compatibility issues running ProTools !0 in conjunction with my DiGi mixing console..... It's just too cool to be able to multitrack live shows with nothing more than a laptop and two minutes of digital patching.
But, it just won't work on XP, and it really likes more than 4g of ram

cullennewsom · #18 11-03-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I only have one issue with it on the second day (and was present after the install):

No link from the e-mail account will work. It lists a "general failure" when the attempt is made. Any ideas how to restore that?

Not off the top of my head. But have a look in here chrome://chrome/settings/

What kind of email account? Gmail?

pawoSD · #19 11-03-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Innovate all you wish. Some people will need the innovation and flock to it like flies to shlt. Most others, however, will be perfectly satisfied with the "old" technology because it works perfectly well for them and they don't need to spend the time and money on equipment and software that they cannot use.

Unfortunately, you fail to see the benefits of older systems to most folks and instantly recommend new hardware to cure any and all ills. You made a blanket statement that 2GB is insufficient to run Chrome and you were dead wrong. The problem was not the 2GB, it was the Chrome browser itself. Pick a different browser and the problem disappears. You failed to even consider this possibility.

Didn't you drive an older SD and your father also drives an older SD? Why change your philosophy that "new" is better when it comes to vehicles? You're so disingenuous that you'll recommend brand new IT hardware at the drop of the hat but won't consider a brand new automobile for exactly the same reasons. This is hypocritical beyond the pale.

Can't compare cars and computers. The difference between a 7 year old computer and one today is vast. The difference between a brand new car and one from 10,20,30 years ago is much less. Both can accomplish the same thing just as easily and can often have similar performance and efficiency. An ancient PC with 2GB of ram IS insufficient for much of the tasks and demands of modern software and even web applications. I just set up a newer PC for someone who is 75 years old and they were thrilled at the difference vs their 7ish year old XP machine they had. Ever actually used a modern computer? As an IT professional, I do happen to know what I am talking about. I do not upgrade ALL things. In fact we still have a very old winXP machine that handles incoming/outgoing faxes on our network, just because there is no need to upgrade it as there'd be no change in capability. But for a day to day machine, there's no reason to stay stuck in the past.

Brian Carlton · #20 11-03-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

Can't compare cars and computers. The difference between a 7 year old computer and one today is vast. The difference between a brand new car and one from 10,20,30 years ago is much less. Both can accomplish the same thing just as easily and can often have similar performance and efficiency.

Wow, now I'm absolutely convinced that you haven't the slightest idea of what the hell you're talking about...........on just about every topic that you touch..........unbelievable.

Brian Carlton · #21 11-03-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cullennewsom

Not off the top of my head. But have a look in here chrome://chrome/settings/

What kind of email account? Gmail?

I managed to fix it by using the extracted files in the download folder. The problem started when I moved those files to programs.

Not fully understanding why the program cannot reside in programs under it's own folder.

Hatterasguy · #22 11-03-2012, 08:21 PM

I don't know much about computers, but I like that shiny new IMac Apple is coming out with in December...just upgrade to the 32g one, and run as many Google Chromes as you want.

Hatterasguy · #23 11-03-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

Can't compare cars and computers. The difference between a 7 year old computer and one today is vast. The difference between a brand new car and one from 10,20,30 years ago is much less. Both can accomplish the same thing just as easily and can often have similar performance and efficiency. An ancient PC with 2GB of ram IS insufficient for much of the tasks and demands of modern software and even web applications. I just set up a newer PC for someone who is 75 years old and they were thrilled at the difference vs their 7ish year old XP machine they had. Ever actually used a modern computer? As an IT professional, I do happen to know what I am talking about. I do not upgrade ALL things. In fact we still have a very old winXP machine that handles incoming/outgoing faxes on our network, just because there is no need to upgrade it as there'd be no change in capability. But for a day to day machine, there's no reason to stay stuck in the past.

No offense but the difference between your old cars and a new S class or Panamera is like saying this:

Is the same as this, because it does about the same thing.

cmbdiesel · #24 11-04-2012, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

I don't know much about computers, but I like that shiny new IMac Apple is coming out with in December...just upgrade to the 32g one, and run as many Google Chromes as you want.

Watch out buddy.... Apple don't like Google....

I expect to see the ante rising like flood water in the next year.

iwrock · #25 11-04-2012, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

Watch out buddy.... Apple don't like Google....

I expect to see the ante rising like flood water in the next year.

Chrome works awesome on my MacBook, actually works quite a bit better than on my PC.

Anywho, back to the point here. I have also noticed that lately, Chrome has become quite a bit more memory intensive than in the past. Like others on here, I suspect that it has something to do with Flash, but have not really spent the time investigating it.

I used to have the latest and greatest in computing, but lately, I have found myself wanting to spend less on those shiny new computer parts, and keep more around for things that are more useful to me, like dune buggys, dirt bikes, etc. A new computer (even when you shop for parts) costs over $1k, even if you piece it together yourself, and IMO, that too much to spend once a year. That, to me, is a dirt bike, an ATV, etc.

spdrun · #26 11-04-2012, 01:48 AM

??? - I can buy a decent new laptop for ~$500 if I'm not looking for fancy stuff.

iwrock · #27 11-04-2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

??? - I can buy a decent new laptop for ~$500 if I'm not looking for fancy stuff.

Im talking cutting edge in graphics, SSDs, processor, memory, etc

pawoSD · #28 11-04-2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Wow, now I'm absolutely convinced that you haven't the slightest idea of what the hell you're talking about...........on just about every topic that you touch..........unbelievable.

People who think they know everything about everything tend to have such thoughts.

spdrun · #29 11-04-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

People who think they know everything about everything tend to have such thoughts.

Are you an IT person (aka problem-solver) or technology salesman? To be good, you should be a little bit of both. Cost of browser change: $0. OK, maybe $10-20 of time. Cost of new computer: $400-500 at least.

If a browser is using 700M for mundane tasks, there's something wrong. Yep. I still use Firefox for a lot of tasks. It never consumes more than about 300M out of 2GB installed on a netbook that I use.

pawoSD · #30 11-04-2012, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

Are you an IT person (aka problem-solver) or technology salesman? To be good, you should be a little bit of both. Cost of browser change: $0. OK, maybe $10-20 of time. Cost of new computer: $400-500 at least.

If a browser is using 700M for mundane tasks, there's something wrong.

I am IT, and do occasional sales recommendations/analysis. I think the original issue here was that no, a 7+ year old PC is not going to handle things as well as a new one. Its always amazing how people will fight, battle and cling to their ancient computers, but when they finally give in and upgrade, the response is virtually always very positive. The cost of a computer is minuscule compared to what most people spend on much less important things. A $400 PC averaged out over 5+ years is not even $7 a month. Thats about the same as what people pay for insurance on their PHONE....which probably cost more than their computer!