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jplinville · #**586** 12-17-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubyagee

Report: Public Shootings Not On Increase (But Dems Still Want Your Guns)

Fox's thesis is supported by Minnesota Department of Corrections criminologist Grant Duwe, who not only says public shootings aren't increasing -- they are actually on the decline, historically speaking.

Of course, none of this will affect Sen. Feinstein's (D-CA) plan to push an assault weapons ban on "day one of Congress" next year. And that's because facts don't matter when it comes to furthering the gun-grabbing agenda of the Democrat Party.

Don't let facts get in the way of propaganda in a political fight...it will hurt someone's feelings.

Dubyagee · #**587** 12-17-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I bet she manages to bring this to a vote. The real question is what will the House do? I'm inclined to say they go with it............the public is a bit adamant.

Never let a tragedy go to waste and all that. Patriot acts birthright.

cmbdiesel · #**588** 12-17-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dropnosky

a lot of mental disorders appear in the mid to late 20s in people.

Of course, once we round up and suspend all personal freedoms of all US citizens in order to test them and do a brain scan, we might as well put in tracking devices, oh and tattoo their social security number in bar code form on their forehead.
The ones that fail the scan for whatever reason can now be forced labor to build infrastructure and other projects.

In order to protect even the modernization and minor modification of your 2nd amendment rights, you are willing to give up ALL your other rights pretty willingly for some reason. Does not strike me as the brightest idea. Another push for the police state.

I'll give up everything, as long as I get to keep my bazooka.

Botnst · #**589** 12-17-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dropnosky

No he didn't, and whats your point?

He died with two handguns and a rifle. Whether or not he owned them is preposterously unrelated to the fact that if legislation existed that prevented his MOTHER from owning them, he wouldn't have had the kind of access to such dangerous tools that he actually did have.

Whoever owned the dam things, they were legally owned, as has been the vast majority of weapons used in mass killings. Who cares if the killers themselves actually owned the weapons or not? The law abiding citizens they stole them from would be affected by legislation, which would impact availability.

Yeah, legislation does a fine job of preventing people from possessing illegal items.

cmbdiesel · #**590** 12-17-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

lets outlaw violent video games....seriously. what purpose do they seve and can the makers prove that they do not influence the mentally ill and impressionable?

Let's take away something of somebody else's, and leave my stuff alone....

Although, in this case, I can't help but think that some of these games are actually really bad for the kids that are playing them.

cmbdiesel · #**591** 12-17-2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

The technology to identify sociopaths and psychopaths exists currently. It is a type of functional MRI brain scan that uses specialized software. It has been demonstrated on several cable shows and is reliable. Why not put every man, woman and child through a fMRI brain scan and find out who they are? Then, inject them with drugs that will make them passive and send them off to Alcatraz island where they can't do anyone any harm.

The FBI estimates that 1 in 100 people is a psychopath. Run the numbers for your city or town. Why not get rid of them now? Why wait for more mass killings? If we can identify the nuts before they go postal, why not?

Of course, as soon as this idea takes off, the ACLU will move to file suit to stop it.

You might be on to something.

Mandatory brain scan before you are permitted to own firearms or video games.

I think we have a winner.

cmbdiesel · #**592** 12-17-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

Don't let facts get in the way of propaganda in a political fight...it will hurt someone's feelings.

I believe you meant 'spin'.... don't let your spin get in the way of my propaganda...

Botnst · #**593** 12-17-2012, 08:46 PM

Got it!

Murder rate of 5.0 per 100K in the general population.

Murder rate of 5.5 per 100K in the LEO population.

The conclusion is obvious: To reduce crime we should disarm LEO's.

2010 NPMSRP Police Misconduct Statistical Report -Draft- | PoliceMisconduct.net

Jorn · #**594** 12-17-2012, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by HuskyMan
The technology to identify sociopaths and psychopaths exists currently. It is a type of functional MRI brain scan that uses specialized software. It has been demonstrated on several cable shows and is reliable. Why not put every man, woman and child through a fMRI brain scan and find out who they are? Then, inject them with drugs that will make them passive and send them off to Alcatraz island where they can't do anyone any harm.

The FBI estimates that 1 in 100 people is a psychopath. Run the numbers for your city or town. Why not get rid of them now? Why wait for more mass killings? If we can identify the nuts before they go postal, why not?

Of course, as soon as this idea takes off, the ACLU will move to file suit to stop it.

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

You might be on to something.

Mandatory brain scan before you are permitted to own firearms or video games.

I think we have a winner.

And who decides who's a sociopath or psychopath. Ever heard of the mental hospitals during the time of the USSR, you guys are completely bonkers!

Don't trust the government to handle healthcare but...

pj67coll · #**595** 12-17-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

Do you really think a teacher can find the composter to find the keys, unlock the save when all this unexpected violence is going on around him or her and then on top of it aim at the gun man.

I agree which is why I say that a gun anywhere else but on the person is useless. I'm well aware that I cannot be compared to the populace as a whole and I'm well aware that teachers, at least in elementary school are predominantly female but not all are and some are ex military. I suspect that the percentage I mentioned earlier might in fact be found who might be able to carry guns. In the district where I work I think about a sixth of the staff are men and a handful of them ex military. Also some of the women are married to spouses who hunt and they have been around guns much of there lives. I do know of one 20 something teacher who likes her guns very much.

As I said this might be different across the country as other states are not as liberal with gun culture as AZ is. But I think the real problem would likely be the opposition of the majority parents and staff who would reject the idea.

- Peter.

Botnst · #**596** 12-17-2012, 08:53 PM

My wife teaches at an elementary school. She is gun-safe and an excellent shot. She can put 4, .38 sp in a 5 inch circle at 15 paces as fast as she can pull the trigger (it's a 5 shot pistol. Hammer on an empty cyl). She would get fired for packing.

Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

Dubyagee · #**597** 12-17-2012, 09:00 PM

This goes against logic as well. What to do? What to do...

Gun-related violent crimes drop as sales soar in Va. - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Central Virginia

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/16/Stats-Prove-Gun-Control-Does-Not-Work

cmbdiesel · #**598** 12-17-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

And who decides who's a sociopath or psychopath. Ever heard of the mental hospitals during the time of the USSR, you guys are completely bonkers!

Don't trust the government to handle healthcare but...

As much as my comment was intended to be sarcastic, mandatory brain scans for video games and weapons ownership is starting to sound pretty good... a real deterrent....

What other products could we make people get brain scans for?
GM cars?
Twinkies?

Jorn · #**599** 12-17-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

My wife teaches at an elementary school. She is gun-safe and an excellent shot. She can put 4, .38 sp in a 5 inch circle at 15 paces as fast as she can pull the trigger (it's a 5 shot pistol. Hammer on an empty cyl). She would get fired for packing.

Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

God forbid, but would she hit her target when she's shot at?

cmbdiesel · #**600** 12-17-2012, 09:07 PM

Time for complete firearm registration.
Possessing an unregistered weapon, serious consequences, prison time.
Having your weapon used in a crime by any person and you are on the hook as well.
Accidental shootings due to negligence revokes your right to own firearms.
Sales of unregistered weapons, huge prison time.