If we strip away pure emotion and get down to analytical logic the deal comes down to this: We cannot control A (nut jobs), however, we can control B (ourselves). If every teacher was armed and well trained in the use of deadly force, they would be in a position to stop the carnage at the point of invasion. Bolt bullet proof desks to the floors of each class room. Install a digital security lock on a desk drawer which houses a high capacity hand gun. Require that teachers attend firearms training monthly. Post the teacher's targets/shooting scores in the front entry of the school.

Why all this? Because it is true, a pussy will seek out a venue where they know no defense will be presented, i.e. a "gun free" zone. These pussies know that in a school, they will face very little opposition. Obviously, we are at war and there is an enemy that MUST be dealt with. Banning guns, limiting the amount of ammunition etc etc. are all band aids.

If these whacko psychotic nut jobs are looking to go out in a blaze of glory, give them what they want, only don't allow them take out innocents in the process.

You have been watching too much Rambo. If the mom didn't own all those guns in the house, where would a 20 year old suburban kid get guns, assault rifles and multi magazine rounds in CT, one of the most strictest states with gun control laws?

Then you have to identify and fix other soft targets - shopping centers, libraries, churches, fast food places. Harden them all, remove all windows and easy access. Essentially make them into military style bunkers. These people aren't "pussies", they are SICK. Only a sicko will blow his mother's brains out. And as they are sick, you will never know what kind of target they have in mind.

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No, you do not. Because in all these other so called "soft targets" there is no requirement for the citizenry to be unarmed and defenseless. In schools that is a requirement and whack jobs know that perfectly well. Witness the sicko in Aurora Colorado who targeted a movie theater specifically because it was a "gun free zone" whereas there were other theaters closer to his home which were not.

Why do you think it is that these screw ups never target police stations, shooting ranges, gun shops etc?

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There were a number of military people in the audience at that Aurora theater. Why didn't they go to a more secure BYOF theater? Shouldn't they have known better?

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Obviously, you don't have much of a read on this particular subject. Weak people will NEVER go up against powerful people. And a gun is power, make no mistake. Weak in the knees pussy nut jobs respect only one thing; power. "Gun Free" zones, i.e. restaurants, bars, post offices, airports, schools, work places, etc etc are obviously a great place for a weak in the knees pussy to show up and begin shooting. They face NO resistance from anyone. Why make it easy for them? Place a metal detector at the door and the moment they walk in and draw down on innocents, let 'em have it. Drop them before they drop you.

I'd suggest you view the Stallone move, "Cobra" on how he dealt with whackos who were used to running over the weak. What was the line from the movie? "You're the disease and I'm the cure".

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Nice world you are creating for our children. This stuff didn't happen when I was in school. Why now?

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What world is that, the real world? I'm talking about the REAL world, a world that appears to be occupied by whackos and nut jobs.... Granted there are a lot of nice people, but children also need to be made aware that there are some certified psychos out there and learn to recognize the signs.

Still didn't answer the question "why now and not before?" I whole hardily agree that more effort needs to be put into identification of at risk individuals.
Unlike you I want to push back the hands of time to where we only had to worry about being nuked when we were in school.

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The technology to identify sociopaths and psychopaths exists currently. It is a type of functional MRI brain scan that uses specialized software. It has been demonstrated on several cable shows and is reliable. Why not put every man, woman and child through a fMRI brain scan and find out who they are? Then, inject them with drugs that will make them passive and send them off to Alcatraz island where they can't do anyone any harm.

The FBI estimates that 1 in 100 people is a psychopath. Run the numbers for your city or town. Why not get rid of them now? Why wait for more mass killings? If we can identify the nuts before they go postal, why not?

Of course, as soon as this idea takes off, the ACLU will move to file suit to stop it.

Is that percentage higher now than before? If so why if not what has changed that has lead to these school shootings?

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without running everyone through an fMRI, the numbers are only estimates. Medical technology using fMRI has progressed DRAMATICALLY in the last ten years. They are real close to literally reading your mind. and, though that idea may be scary to some, I see a big advantage of being able to identify a nut job before he/she decides to go postal.

Why ban guns (a non-thinking object) when you can ban bad people?

You think the ACLU will be the only one fighting that idea? Seriously?

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Now that you mention it, both the ACLU and Psychopaths will fight it.