Do you honestly think that registering the firearms would have kept this asshat from stealing his mother's guns, killing her and then killing everyone at the school?? "Oh, gee, I guess I really shouldn't kill anyone with those guns, they're registered". Does registering guns keep them from being operated by crazed lunatics?

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No, I was onto the greater topic of where do we go as a society.(see post 614) A society in which I would like to retain my ability to own firearms.

Registering firearms is a way to help dry up the supply lines of unregistered weapons filling our cities.

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Take for instance the 5.5 per 100K firearm murders by police. Those are all registered firearms. Police have a higher gun violence rate than the general population. Therefore, registered guns are a danger.

I love correlation!

Nobody is claiming that unregistered guns are not a danger.
This tangent is in response to Hattie claiming that the kid could have just gone to Hartford or New Haven and gotten a gun on the street corner. Also in response to Dubya when he posted about the ineffectiveness of handgun bans in DC... and BC when describing the handgun violence in NYC.
Registering weapons should create the ability to track the weapons history and expose the people who are putting them out on the streets.

All the weapons used in LEO firearm murders were registered?

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A certified gun safe might have.

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How are you going to implement this? How are you going to make sure everyone has gun safes and that is the only place they keep their guns?

Again, most of my guns are in a safe, but two are loaded at all times and easily accessible to anyone in my immediate family. They are to be used in a case of home defense only, and those that live in my home know their location as well as how to use them properly. I refuse to keep ALL of my weapons in a safe.

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Very simple: just when you register your car and have to show proof of insurance you have to show proof of ownership of a certified gun safe in your name when purchasing a gun or rifle. No big deal. If they are going to store it in the save is another question.

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In other words, make a law that cannot be enforced only to make the gun owner spend more money on something he/she won't use.

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Another good reason for making a gun save mandatory. Poor people should not have guns anyways, they only use it to distribute the wealth.

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To a degree it would be the honor system with the threat of jail time if you bet wrong. If someone breaks into your house and steals your guns which are then used in the commission of a crime and you have no safe or that safe is not blown to smithereens and you did not report the theft and destruction of your safe then you will being seeing the inside of a jail right along with the person who used the gun. I would think that would be a pretty adequate incentive.

Same reason most of us have insurance. Hope you don't need it but just in case your house gets wiped out ..... nice to have.

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Exactly HOW is this going to prevent a situation like what happened in CT? HOW is this going to get weapons out of the hands of criminals??

It won't...all it does is create another unenforceable law causing a certain group of citizens to spend MORE money on something that won't work.

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Most criminals have a background. If you go through a check before buying you would be rejected. No gun. Can't go to Craigs list or anything else because of the back ground check ... no gun. Can't break into a house and find a gun because they are all locked up.... no gun.

It will take quite some time (several generations) due to the volume of guns in the US but eventually, the bad guys will find it harder and harder to find guns.

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