I am still confused how that data shows any correlation with guns. Can anyone tell me differently? Maybe I missed something on the webpage? It was just statistical data covering 92-11 with various crime rates?

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Clearly the violent crime rate has been dropping without a need for background checks on gun purchases. Why?

Clearly the violent crime rate has dropped significantly without implementing any onerous gun control. Why?

Clearly the "assault weapons" legislation had no impact because the trend was downward before, during and after it was implemented and went away. Why?

Perhaps if we knew more about the 'why' we would have a more focused and accurate, 'how' to deal with violent crime.

Personally, I vote for more Wolfenstein and Doom!.

Oh I dunno. A load of hooey perhaps.

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I do not see how guns are involved at all with this data. I see no evidence presented within the data to support claims that changes to gun laws/regulations or lack there of have effected the crime rates.

What if the police force in those cities sampled for this data expanded ? What if there were simply less criminally inclined people? What if they were too busy or too fat to commit these crimes?

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What if you got off your ass and did your own data mining and analysis?

I am not seeing the correlation of your comment to the data either.

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As Video Game Sales Climb Year Over Year, Violent Crime Continues To Fall - Forbes

video games.

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Change is part of the system. I disagree with the rest of the text I've quoted above.

We have a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy. This is specifically so that "enough people" can not vote to deny the rest of the people their rights.

The founding fathers knew what they were doing when they crafted our Constitution.

Facts shmacts. Count the votes two or three times each. Very progressive.

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Case in point. I see it as an assault on our rights.

Specifically article 1 and the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 8th amendments.

But hey, as long as they aren't targeting our toys, WGAS.....

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What if the crack epidemic ended?

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Maybe you misinterpreted my comment.
When I said 'enough people' I meant an overwhelming number.
Mandate from the masses is required.
The amendment process is not a simple majority.
It is not 51% deciding to screw the other 49%
In fact it is a very painstaking process, and IMHO sure as heck better represent the will of the people.
2/3 of both houses, and 3/4 of all state legislatures. That is a mighty high hurdle (as it should be).
Unless the states wish to call a Convention and bypass the House and Senate.

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We don't have a Republic or a Democracy anymore.

What we have in the United States is a Plutocracy.

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Yup, well aware of all of that. And agreed, I'm glad it's a darned BIG hurdle.

Agree on the first point, agree to a point on the second. We as Americans also have the greatest opportunities out of any other country to go from dirt poor to wealth by our own hard work and discipline.

Regardless of the bickering, I fly an American flag with pride and honor. America ain't perfect, but it's still pretty darned good.

I can't understand this knee-jerk issue of gun laws...

If someone does not mind to go to the gallows for murder...

why he would care about a 150$ ticket or whatever for firearms possession?

Logic failure!

My understanding of Plutocracy is that "rich subset of population controls country". Well, yeah in a point yes. And thank God, as poor people are almost always idiots (if they were smart, they'd be rich). But... there is President always railing about low tax rates for rich people, high tax rates for high earners, and no real indication of rich people doing anything. Why would rich people running firearms companies (for example) let this argument fly around, or rich people owning automobile companies give their equity stakes for free to the government and unions as "bailout"? It seems that, aside from the existence of the rule of law (unlike say Russia), rich people in the USA don't seem to have a lot of power or influence, despite a few people throwing millions into ad campaigns, that seem to accomplish nothing (e.g. the tycoon bankrolling Romney, and indeed also Romney himself)

Bickering is a great thing about America. You need a free market of ideas, to find what is right. Some places there is a kind of social influence to stop people from saying anything "out of line", so nothing can change.