Originally Posted by barry12345

I once had to tell someone to call the police if there is difficulty. Otherwise in that particular situation the individual taking it into his own hands would be bad.

The issue is he did not want someone on his property. When someone entered the house he pulled a pistol. It was his daughter and not her boyfriend that also shared the adjoining house. For some possibly not balanced reason he had a serious dislike of her boyfriend.

I had to tell him I would not be visiting again. If I witnessed the result of your behaviours it would be bad for you in court.

It is your property next door but as you are renting it you cannot control it. If you do not want him around just give a notice to them.

Your daughter does not realise how potentially dangerous you are in this situation. Many people should not have guns and he was in my opinion a prime example of one.

If his wife was still alive and knew he pulled a gun on their daughter . There would have been serious reprecussions.

He had asked me to tell him how to fix the rear shock towers in their ford station wagon a year or so earlier. On examining the vehicle . I told him it was impossible as the whole floor was just oxide. She was hit in this car not much later and it folded up and killed her.

A year or two later he shot himself. He had told me he might. I suggested at that time that if he was serious to leave a note and do not do it where the kids will find you. Of course he did neither.

I had asked some of his family to get him help when his wife died but they did nothing.I will never know if it ever dawned on him that he was partially responsible for his wives death. He let her go on driving a car that was very structurally unsound.

Originally Posted by Dubyagee

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna

What a sad story.

There's no way you ever mentioned the bit about the Ford folding up like that on CarSurvey.org, is there? I remember reading a story identical to that on there -- about a Taurus, maybe? I might be mistaken about the model.

Originally Posted by pawoSD

Trash may kill, but trash without guns has a much harder time killing.

I have yet to meet anyone educated who owns guns other than for hunting purposes. 100% of the people I know who have them around/actively carry are of limited educational ability and worldly knowledge. In fact I know someone who just acquired more guns at great expense (can't afford them either) because he was afraid Kim Jong-un was going to "attack us". I rest my case. People who need guns for "entertainment" or "sport" are probably compensating for other shortfalls in their lives.

Let the flame war begin.

Originally Posted by barry12345

No but it would not suprise me many thousands of others have experienced this. Ford may have pressed some very poor recycled metal then. Basically there was no floor other than in form from the firewall to the tailgate when it reverted to oxides. Being also a unibody and the same steel seemed to be in the subframes etc as well.



I had a low milage chev vega sport station wagon many years ago. Mine did not develop the typical engine issues. The car was sent to the wreckers because the floor went out in a similar fashion to that ford. Easily put a screwdriver through it anywhere.

Originally Posted by barry12345

There is little doubt in my mind that far too many people that own guns should not. Their perceptions of the world are not sound enough. They can all too easily make serious misteaks.

I am not anti gun just have some concerns over people that are not stable enough or having good judgment owning them. Adolecents having access to pistols is almost insanity.

Originally Posted by John Galt

Canada has 1/10th the population of the USofA, with very low homicide rates. About 150 people per year are murdered with firearms, and nearly all of those are criminals shooting criminals. To legally own firearms and purchase ammo in Canada one must have a firearms license which requires taking a safety course and passing a written and practical exam. The people who have firearms licenses are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet, and they don't do violent things with firearms. It's a different culture with different attitudes than the USofA.

Originally Posted by John Galt

Canada has 1/10th the population of the USofA, with very low homicide rates. About 150 people per year are murdered with firearms, and nearly all of those are criminals shooting criminals. To legally own firearms and purchase ammo in Canada one must have a firearms license which requires taking a safety course and passing a written and practical exam. The people who have firearms licenses are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet, and they don't do violent things with firearms. It's a different culture with different attitudes than the USofA.

Originally Posted by pawoSD

Agreed. Same overseas in Europe. There's more gun violence in one large US city than in all of Germany. Guns can be owned in Germany; however tests, paperwork, and the possibility of random checks to make sure they are stored properly are all part of the equation. Overall very few people own guns, and imagine that, their murder rate is several times lower than ours.

Much like oil companies claiming they need enormous tax breaks, the NRA claims all people need guns. Too bad neither of them are right.

Best solution = no guns for the masses, and strict requirements for those who wish to own one

The whole "right to bear arms" and "protect myself" stems from an entirely different time in history which is not even applicable to today's environment. I've even heard claims from crazy gun people that they need to be able to protect themselves from the government, so essentially they are operating with a mindset from around the early 1800's. If the gov wanted to destroy you, a drone would fly over and it'd be all over. Your mountain of weapons will only make the fire shine brighter.

Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

The only thing more boring than another oil thread is another gun control thread.

Originally Posted by barry12345

You can not easily own a legal pistol up here in Canada either. If you do manage to get a permit for one the conditions are strict. ... I suspect on any pistol permit application they run a pretty good background check on the applicant.

Originally Posted by John Galt

Good lesson for any smart-assed teen who would sneak into a daughter's bed without a parent's permission, then foolishly argue with a man with a gun. The teen should be a good candidate for the Darwin award.

Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

The only thing more boring than another oil thread is another gun control thread.