Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Lying....

dope addict. oh wait, its prescription dope!



can anyone of his admirers here deny/confirm if:

1- he suckled the gov teet on unemployment years ago.

2- he couldnt be bothered to register to vote until he was 35.


oh yeah, neal bores has jumped to his defense.

[PC Dave]

Originally posted by jamesnj
W126, this Limbaugh person would have had to obtain the drugs(oxycontin, being one of them) illegally because no doctor or doctors would have prescribed such a powerful morphine derivative(concentrated morphine) to one patient over so very many years and risk losing his medical license(unless the price was right). This drug is a highly controled substance and very strict records are kept, the only way to get enough of the drug to become an addict and remain loyal to the drug is to get it illegally.

Not necessarily true. I had knee surgery last year and had a prescription for Oxycontin, and the stuff was outstanding - didn't make me groggy, but took the pain away. I've actually still got some, because I deliberately reduced the amount I was taking as quickly as I could to avoid just this situation.

One of my partners has a chronic condition with his ankle that is quite painful, but can't be "fixed" - he's stuck with it. He's gotten Oxycontin prescribed by his doctor, and probably will get it indefinitely for the chronic pain, as it lets him function. The doctor monitors his use pretty carefully, but there's no move to cut him off.

BTW, I don't think Limbaugh's doctor's been prescribing him Oxycontin for "so very many years". Oxycontin's a recent phenomenon, and is apparently popular in the "informal" market, where the pills are ground up and smoked (iirc). When I had a prescription filled, I was told that the going rate on the street for it was $1.00/mg, meaning I could have paid my rent that month if I'd sold my prescription (which cost me my $20 copay).

This will damage Limbaugh's credibility to some degree, but not much. There are a lot of Americans, especially those among his target audience of older folks, who take a lot of prescription meds every day for one thing or another. They'll let him slide, and there's no way the government's going after him for something like this.

[bjcsc]

Oxycodone is not hard to get, nor are any normally prescribed opiates. It also isn't very powerful compared to morphine (about 1.5x as powerful as morphine) That's what gives it the abuse potential. When you get into the really dangerous stuff, like Fentanyl, people start dying as few have portable ventilators to take over when their diaphragms stop working. I worked at the Medical University Hospital here in Charleston in Narcotics for about 3 years, and during that time we had an anaesthesiologist abusing fentanyl whom we caught and basically forced to abandon his residency and a RT stealing morphine from his patient's drips. My understanding is that it is typical for a University hospital to experience a resident death every 4 or 5 years due to Fentanyl. No one knows more about the dangers of these drugs than the anaesthesia people, yet they get dragged in. Whether you like Rush or not, physical addiction is a dangerous and difficult thing. We had to watch the fentanyl like hawks, and we may have saved that guy's life. As far as Rush goes - when you consistently speak out against powerful people and/or the US Government, don't forget how powerful they actually are. Few of us could survive as long as he did under the power of that microscope. It was only a matter of time...

[STORMINORMAN]

Why is it that if he were black, or an illegal immigrant, or even... GASP! ...female, he would automatically be considered to be a VICTIM of prescription drug addiction?


Nah! He's a white male conservative, the personification of all things evil, incarnate!

He even had the audacity to criticize the media vis-a-vis one of their darlings, citing the questionable performance but almost nationwide acclaim, of a black quarterback.... GASP (again!)

Shades of Marion Berry (who was SO SUCCESSFULLY rehabilitated he was re-elected!)?

[mikemover]

Originally posted by STORMINORMAN
Why is it that if he were black, or an illegal immigrant, or even... GASP! ...female, he would automatically be considered to be a VICTIM of prescription drug addiction?

Nah! He's a white male conservative, the personification of all things evil, incarnate!

Exactly! He's a successful, outspoken, heterosexual white male, so he MUST be racist, sexist, homophobic, and a hypocrite, right?

I'm FAR, FAR from agreeing with everything Rush has said, but often he is right on the money. So now he's human like the rest of us. His critics will of course jump on this like flies on $h!t, and you can't really blame them...It's too juicy an opportunity to resist for them.

Mike

Originally posted by mikemover
Exactly! He's a successful, outspoken, heterosexual white male, so he MUST be racist, sexist, homophobic, and a hypocrite, right?

I'm FAR, FAR from agreeing with everything Rush has said, but often he is right on the money. So now he's human like the rest of us. His critics will of course jump on this like flies on $h!t, and you can't really blame them...It's too juicy an opportunity to resist for them.

Mike

Right on Mike! It's only OK to have problems if your liberal. Also he is taking the high road and admitting responsibility, unlike most other prominent figures.

It's funny that conservitives are called stupid but they are always held to a higher standard.

oh pleeaassee!

you girls forgot to put on your skirts for cheerleading practice. :p

rush, rush, hes our man, if he cant:

sit upon his self-appointed throne and pontificate, no one can!



anyone care to address the 2 questions origional to the thread?

[mikemover]

Originally posted by ThrillBilly
oh pleeaassee!

you girls forgot to put on your skirts for cheerleading practice. :p

rush, rush, hes our man, if he cant:

sit upon his self-appointed throne and pontificate, no one can!



anyone care to address the 2 questions origional to the thread?

Self-appointed? Hardly. One does not "appoint" onesself to the most successful talk radio show in the history of radio. One must have LISTENERS to accomplish that. He wouldn't have the most listeners if he wasn't saying SOMETHING that a LOT of people want to hear.

Cheerleading??? If you're talking to me, perhaps you should re-read my post, and notice that I often DON'T agree with Rush, I listen to him very sporadically, and I'm definitely not on any crusade to defend him for being a pill-popper. I've always thought addiction to ANYTHING is a sign of weakness, and still do.

As to the original two questions: I don't know, and I don't care. Doesn't make anything he has said or done any more valid or any less valid.

Mike

[RG5384]

I know absolutely nothing about the guy you are talking about, but if he's addicted to oxy's its probably not going to be too long before he OD's on them. Definately not a pill to F*ck with.
Ryan

[STORMINORMAN]

One is a fat, flaming Nazi gasbag...

The other is a dirigible.

(My favorite Rush joke. I actually kinda' respect the guy, although I fail to agree with everything he purports...)

[PC Dave]

James, I received a number of prescriptions from my doctor at the time of my surgery (he did Tiger Woods' knee a couple of months after mine and he's the team orthopod for the US Ski/Snowboard Team, I think he knows what he's doing). One was for nausea; I never felt any, so I didn't take any of those. Others, including Oxycontin, were for pain. My doctor was fully aware of my choice to only take as much as I needed, and he approved. As to what I do with the leftovers, I'm quite qualified to make that decision, thank you. I'm not at all confused about the medication I took, I'm looking at the bottle of Oxycontin as I type (10mg x 30). BTW, I never even heard of Oxycontin prior to my surgery; I took it at my doctor's suggestion, and was happy I did. I don't believe that only certain doctors can prescribe it, at least not in my state.

As for my colleague, he's heard of pain management clinics and so have his doctors. They've probably spent a bit more time on the issue than you have. You're welcome to believe or disbelieve me as you choose, but I'd call it presumptuous to suggest that someone is addicted without a) a lot more professional expertise than you can derive from a couple of conversations with doctors, and b) knowledge of that individual's specific case.

[mikemover]

Originally posted by jamesnj

You have the right to say what you want and people will either take it or leave it. Furthermore, it seems rather silly to identify your doctor, if in fact he truly is your physician. People become suspicious when the name dropping starts.

James,

Please reveal to all of us what your sudden vendetta against PCDave has to do with the subject of this post?

Mike

[PC Dave]

Originally posted by jamesnj
Any educated person can find a doctor who upon hearing your situation would laugh in disbelief...What you "think" is irrelevant, you don't know the protocol for prescribing the drug and you haven't bothered to research it.

Backatcha, James. Aside from conversations with a couple of cycling residents and your family doctor, who may or may not have worked with Oxycontin, what research have YOU done? I haven't done any, because I don't care. I had surgery, my doctor prescribed a pain medication that I hadn't heard of. It worked really well. I had no problem getting my original prescription filled, and when I called to ask for a refill it was waiting at the pharmacy when I got there. End of story. I brought my story up in this thread because I have some direct recent experience with prescription use of Oxycontin, which is more than you can say.

Before you call someone you've never met a liar because their direct experience doesn't match what you were told in casual conversation with a couple of doctors, consider as an alternative that you don't know everything about everything.

Whatever. Your arrogance and presumption are impressive. Continue to enlighten us with your expertise.

James, you don't know what you’re talking about, while it's true that Oxy needs a Triplicate written prescription your wrong about its intended use. The pad is required to prevent fraud which is the reason no refills are allowed, if you think that each prescription is reviewed I have a bridge for sale in Massachusetts I'd like to sell you.

well, lets see- if rush even once purchased drugs illegally:

drug trafficing supports terrorist activities

how true blue american of him