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Old 09-17-2011, 08:27 PM
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Wastegate actuator swap for OM602.962 - revisited

This Thread Originally authored by gsxr... I am posting here as a new thread to make it easier to find the pertinent information that has been assembled in the old circa 2008 thread... without further ado ... this is what I had posted in that thread... > NOTE > Links are now working

In the spirit of helpfulness... and organization I am including here a summary listing providing the key references to the conversion... I hope this is of help.

Here is the part number and location to purchase the replacement actuator

part number 433489-12

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TP&Product_Code=433489-12&Category_Code=

# please note that the rod length will have to be shortened

as a reference this thread :
A : ( post number 133 ) explains the rod length customisation
B: I would highly recommend perusing the entire thread of which the page 9 URL is listed here :
Wastegate actuator swap for OM602.962?

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for detailed pictures of the parts involved : ( wastegate13.jpg ) for actuator image )
http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM602_intake/


also,

in this same thread : page 10

Wastegate actuator swap for OM602.962?

it is outlined that for the manifold port fitting one should purchase this :

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TP&Product_Code=ATP-FTG-040&Category_Code=

! please note that this fitting is a NPT thread and will certainly work for the self tapped hole on the turbo housing that GSXR implemented but I have yet to confirm that the OE manifold threads used by : VegStew in post # 117... here :
Wastegate actuator swap for OM602.962?

are in fact a match for the 1/8" NPT thread. I will write again when I have confirmed this.

UPDATE > as referenced in the original thread... the factory manifold threads are in fact 1/8 NPT and and will mate exactly to the fitting as linked above

Thank you

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Old 09-17-2011, 08:55 PM
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Maybe it's just me but I can't get your peachparts or atpturbo links to work. I think you cut and paste the truncated URLs (with ...) from the thread rather than the entire URL.

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Maybe it's just me but I can't get your peachparts or atpturbo links to work. I think you cut and paste the truncated URLs (with ...) from the thread rather than the entire URL.

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You are right sorry about the links - ill look into it and fix it
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Maybe it's just me but I can't get your peachparts or atpturbo links to work. I think you cut and paste the truncated URLs (with ...) from the thread rather than the entire URL.

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Links have been fixed ... now maybe this can be of some help to someone

best to all

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Hey I'll say all the info that gsxr posted was great. I recently bought the actuator for $100 and shorted rod (had to add some more threads to rod) and installed; drilled and taped the cross-over pipe just downstream of turbo: installed 90 degree fitting; small hose connected and a world of difference!
Great info!
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Hey I'll say all the info that gsxr posted was great. I recently bought the actuator for $100 and shorted rod (had to add some more threads to rod) and installed; drilled and taped the cross-over pipe just downstream of turbo: installed 90 degree fitting; small hose connected and a world of difference!
Great info!
Another solution to the rod length issue is to place several washers between the actuator housing and the mounting bracket thereby effectively shortening the rod... I did this after cutting the rod and discovering the need to cut threads and was concerned about the internal integrity of the wastegate if I should in the process turn the shaft too much ... so I erred on the side of caution and shimmed the housing instead

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Instead of using washers I used the nuts off my old actuator. Photos are in this posting.
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Instead of using washers I used the nuts off my old actuator. Photos are in this posting.
Good Idea and less easy to drop a nut then several washers.. I hope the mod was up to your expectations

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Thumbs up

The mod was easy to perform and is a very simple yet elegant alternative to the (21 year old) MB design.
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The stock actuator is always holding the wastegate closed too. It's just using a computer-controlled vacuum signal, instead of a manually-controlled pressure signal. There is no change in EGT's unless you modify something else.

You don't want a T3 turbocharger a stock OM602 engine. If your turbo is bad, repair it or replace it.

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The stock actuator is always holding the wastegate closed too. It's just using a computer-controlled vacuum signal, instead of a manually-controlled pressure signal. There is no change in EGT's unless you modify something else.

You don't want a T3 turbocharger a stock OM602 engine. If your turbo is bad, repair it or replace it.

Thanks...

I was under the impression the stock turbo is a T3 if not what is it and or what should I replace it with ?

additionaly - the reason I stated that the stock setup does not hold the wastegate closed at all times is that I ran arround with a shop vacuum gauge hooked to the vacuum signal being sent to the wastegate and it varied by throttle pressure form 10 in. at full to 2 in. at light throttle ( was one or the other not attenuated inbetween )

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OM603 stock turbo is T3.

OM602 stock turbo is T25. Replace it with a good used OM602 turbo, or just rebuild it. Messing with aftermarket will cause nothing but headaches on a stock motor.



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OM603 stock turbo is T3.

OM602 stock turbo is T25. Replace it with a good used OM602 turbo, or just rebuild it. Messing with aftermarket will cause nothing but headaches on a stock motor.





Thanks,

where does one find a source for a rebuild kit / components / or a cartridge it there is such a thing available for the T25 ?
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OM603 stock turbo is T3.

OM602 stock turbo is T25. Replace it with a good used OM602 turbo, or just rebuild it. Messing with aftermarket will cause nothing but headaches on a stock motor.



I just pulled mine from the parts stack and found the AT.. number to be AT0003 does that designate a T3 Garrett or is it the other numbers that designate the Garrett series ? by the by my other numbers were an exact match ( the best I can see ) from your image.

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See info posted here:
Turbo blown (w124 300D)....where do i buy a new turbo?

I don't believe that number has any relation to T3 vs T25.
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