Do you believe that such a circumstance, if it occurred, would represent a progression in the corruption of American government? Or, and no offense intended, are you one of those Leave It To Beaver nostalgists who believed that America was a different place relative to the occurrence of such behavior 20, 40, 80 years ago?

This is what I thought might happened if Z was found not guilty.
However, by the end of the Month everyone might calm down and the Feds might not do that.

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The prosecution's witnesses, one by one supported the defense of Geo. Zimmerman. As did all the cogent evidence presented in the case. The unfortunate, illiterate GF, the homocide detective, the eye-witness John Good, 18 feet away from the cries of Geo. Zimmerman to John Good for help, the injuries on TrayonMartin's knuckles proving he beat on something, the injuries of Geo. Zimmerman's head being slammed on the ground, and or the injured knuckles of the perp. assaulting Mr. Zimmerman. The gunpowder stains on the perp's shirt, and angle of the shooting on the perp. The list is very long indeed, that the shooting was justified as Geo. Zimmerman believed his life was in danger, grave danger. He took action to stop the deadly assault. Case closed.

That's why it was hard to believe as to why the case went to trial in the first place. It made no sense, since none of the evidence added up to even an accusation of Zimmerman's wrongdoing.

It was pretty much a slam dunk verdict from the get go.

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If the Law has that a Person only has to believe their Life is in Danger that is subjective to that individual person and does not require that He actually be near death to save His life.
So Jury must have felt He Judged Properly.

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That would be a bad law. I had a friend whose batcrap insane landlady was convinced that he was making her ill and killing her with vodun. Even called the cops on him a couple of times, claiming that he was engaging in rituals in his apartment.

Would she have been justified in shooting him?

Although I wasn't expecting GZ to walk off that easy, I respect the decision...the trial was important, despite what people think. At the very least we can take comfort in the verdict knowing both sides had the opportunity to prove their case.

However, as a nation we need to seriously ask ourselves if this is the society we wish to live in - where gun toting insecure weaklings instigate a fight, and when they find themselves getting beat up, they tip the odds by using deadly force.

This is the America the NRA wants us to live in.

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That's quite a ridiculous analogy. She was not in IMMEDIATE danger requiring use of force within seconds to save her life. Grow up.

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Assuming she believed that whatever ritual he was performing could be immediately fatal to her, would she be justified in shooting? Taken literally, the answer would be yes -- thus enabling every delusional crackpot.

The FL law uses the word "reasonably". So no.

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Evidence? What evidence is their to support any of GZ's allegations except perhaps the real possibility that Martin was on top of him banging on his face? MTU says I have no proof that GZ initiated the confrontation. Are you kidding me? GZ spotted TM and thought his behavior suspicious and began to shadow him. He was out of breath at some point on the phone, he was hustling to follow TM. I find TM's girlfriend's testimony credible. It fits with what we know of GZ's actions. If GZ had waited in his car, none of this would have happened. GZ got out on foot, with his gun on him and created a dangerous situation out of thin air.

GZ may have thought his life was in danger but that doesn't mean it was. He also thought TM was a criminal about to burgal the vicinity and was wrong on that one also. His imagination was out of control.

Why wouldn't TM fear that GZ was endangering his life? We have no idea if GZ flashed his weapon or otherwise threatened TM with it. There are no "facts" to back up much of anything in this story.

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Dang. Well put indeed. And a fist fight that he (GZ) ultimately provoked.

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Tell you what. Run that one by a jury and see what THEY say about it. I wouldn't reccommend that you be the defendent in that case.

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Is it a crime to be weak?

Would you suggest that weak people should not have the means to defend themselves?

Not to mention the back of his head.

As noted above, nothing really matters except that Z was in fear for grave bodily injury or loss of life.

Had Z not shot M, M would likely have been charged with assault & battery.

Mayor Nutter issues statement on Zimmerman verdict | 6abc.com



I don't understand why every politician has to have a public view on this

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