We get it already. You like predictable, cheap, industrial 'food" that's exactly the same from one Olive Garden to the next. It's ok. Really it is.

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Ehhh I have seen some good yelp reviews for a place that was in a warzone and I wouldn't eat at without a gun.

Its hit and miss any idiot can put up anything they want.

As for Toby Keith its his property so I don't really care. He owns it so he is free to set the rules.

Secondly if he serves alcohol their in a lot of states your not allowed to carry so its a mute point in some areas.

IMHO the carry guys push it to far sometimes. We don't live in a dangerous country so you don't need your 1911 to grab a burger and a beer, sorry. Its not an area of gun rights that I feel should be pushed as hard as it is. But than again I'm not a part of the Nuthin Fancy/Sheep dog/the world is dangerous circle. I'm in the firearms are tools circle, and like any tool sometimes its good for the job other times its not.

IMHO most of the CC sheep dog guys place to much importance on one tool, and get overly excited about it. These are the same guys that when you do a real shooting course will cry about having to lay their gun down on the dirt. I have shot next to guys that would place blankets next to them so they could lay down their rifle when doing transitions, and were horrified that I would just lay my Sig rifle on the dirt.

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I tried to find out how many shooting incidents have occurred at Starbucks. The ones that I could find, two, involved customers who had pistols in their handbags that accidentally discharged. One customer was shot in the leg, the other incident was a near miss.

This would not be a problem with the one outside of Tulsa. It is located in a Casino which is guarded by the Cherokee Lighthorse Police.

This is also a good spot for this type of business as about 90% of their customers are from out of town. The Casino is a resort and this place is just a part of it.

The location in Thackerville is operated by the Chickasaws. They, too, have a police force that could easily deal with any problems.

The location in Bricktown is in a popular bar and entertainment area that is always crawling with Cops and many of them work during their off hours as undercover security at the different places.

These Casinos are massive places and yet you never hear of any problems taking place inside of them. Security is everywhere. You just can't see it.

But they are watching you.

More unsubstantiated bull5hit.

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I am not sure about T. K's restaurant's but in most "celebrity owned" establishments the celebrity lets the operator use their name for a cut of sales, and not a cut of profits. A few that come to mind are from Chicago IL Mike Ditka's, and Jim McMahons, Michael Jordans. I doubt that Ditka was carving the butterfly porkchops or put the key in the door or even had a key.

Yeah, it probably is a failed franchisee deal, but the fact remains that it did close.

It definitely is an issue with any CCW folks as to where they are or are not allowed to carry when out in public or private businesses. In fact I personally know folks in Texas that will boycott an establishment such as Starbucks because of Starbucks' anti-CCW stance. It's a shame to bar anyone from your business, but especially bad for business by barring law-abiding CCW folks in Texas.

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I'm not sure what your point was, but:

Just because "they are watching you," doesn't bar anyone from their properties when carrying. There's no way any reservation security force knows whether any guest is or isn't carrying a one or more firearms....

The fact that casinos have some armed security is a testament to the reason that suicidal/mass murders have not to my knowledge done their deeds on casino properties.

Of course, this could change tomorrow, but the fact of the matter is that every suicidal/mass murder in recent history chooses a gun-free zone to do their killing. That, is not a coincidence - it is a fact.

The message is that making any area whether public or private enterprise; a gun-free zone, is increasing the odds of an incident as has been happening with alarming frequency IN, gun-free zones in America...

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But you live in CT, guns don't do bad things in CT...


I let my glock get dirty, it's a tool an it's made to survive. Resale value will be crap but I'm never selling it

The point is none of the Casinos are gun free zones. You might not have one, but the 'reservation security' as you referrer to them, are armed to the teeth.

And the term reservation security is not quite apt. Before Oklahoma was a state it was Indian Territory and the tribes, by treaty, enforced the laws. They were quite ruthless in their approach to troublemakers and developed a reputation as someone not to be messed with. These treaties are still in force, and in their respective Nations these guys are the law. Note that there are no reservations in Oklahoma and there never were. Large parts of the state are designed tribal nations and you are even advised of such when as you travel the state.

When you visit the Winstar Casino in Thackerville there is a 'security' force there. Check out the video, and then ask yourself if the Casino can be considered a 'gun free zone'.

CHICKASAW.TV | Lighthorse Police: SWAT Team

I do simply because I am not a food snob. I don't want to pay for the food I don't like, walk out, find another place and try again. OTOH, if it is on your payroll, I am perfectly content to experiment since you are paying for my time and the meal.

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I have had reviews from others where I wouldn't eat without a barf bag.

May not be an idiot but their taste differs. I have eaten food the wife thinks is good but I would not like and vice versa. Who is right?

Probably he doesn't even care. Some policy wonk told him what he has to do and he signs on.

Will you people ever get the word "moot" and not "mute"?

Don't know about you but how do you schedule when you need it and when you don't? Other than breaking a rule of the establishment, I haven't found a situation where I regret being over armed.

Well, If I spend $300 on a used Remington Express, I would think you would be right. OTOH, if I spent big bucks on a custom fitted stock made of some exotic wood, it could be different. What habit do you get into?

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The question is what the effect of it is. If I lose a coffee sale but gain 2 from people who support the stance, I'm golden. It is a business. I appeal to the most people I can knowing I will piss off somebody. Take restaurants that bar kids. If they can get a loyal enough following by people who want to eat without uncontrolled brats running around, they are fine if you boycott them. It's a number's game with many other factors thrown in.

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Is that the reason? How many prospective suicidal mass murderers have you interviewed on this question?