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Old 09-13-2013, 09:27 AM
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If the motor is staying NA I would just make sure they're not warped and check the seats with machinist's blue.

Look up the packaging/ shipping requirements for international HAZMATs and I'll ship you a case of it. It's flammable, corrosive, and dangerous for skin/eye/lung contact. But it melts the paint away while you watch. A roll of paper towels and a half can had my motorcycle's tank down to bare metal.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:13 PM
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If the motor is staying NA I would just make sure they're not warped and check the seats with machinist's blue.

Look up the packaging/ shipping requirements for international HAZMATs and I'll ship you a case of it. It's flammable, corrosive, and dangerous for skin/eye/lung contact. But it melts the paint away while you watch. A roll of paper towels and a half can had my motorcycle's tank down to bare metal.
Very kind offer - thanks. That sort of stuff would have to be sent surface for sure but that's not the real problem. Dutch customs would stop it from going through because as a private individual I'm not allowed to use it here. You need permits and mates in high places for that kind of stuff here...
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:23 PM
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Progress stalled - need some loctite 573 to seal the front timing chain cover...
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Old 09-15-2013, 04:28 PM
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Progress stalled - need some loctite 573 to seal the front timing chain cover...
I should have done some forum reading before packing up the tools for the day =>

Front cover sealant

I have some loctite blue RTV that's good to 250 degrees C

That will be used tomorrow.
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Old 09-16-2013, 08:56 AM
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If Im not mistaken the oil scraper ring gaps are on the thrust side of the piston, I was always taught that you arrange the gaps as such that no gaps should be on the thrust side of the piston.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:59 PM
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If Im not mistaken the oil scraper ring gaps are on the thrust side of the piston, I was always taught that you arrange the gaps as such that no gaps should be on the thrust side of the piston.
To be honest that's the first time I've heard that. But I'm no engine building expert. The FSM doesn't mention it - just says to make sure the gaps are evenly spaced...

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Piston ring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I can see why you'd want to do that trick you mention though it could help by not digging the ends of a piston ring into the cylinder wall on the power stroke if they happen to be a bit sharp on the corners. In the long run, however, it is possible that the rings will rotate - they won't necessarily stay in the same position as they were fitted.
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:08 PM
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More parts needed

Will it ever end?

Today I broke this bit





102 011 01 80

I need to get new nuts for the propshaft



124 990 14 51/02

When I took out the propshaft I noticed these were rusty - why do they bother with safety checks if the testers don't open their eyes?



123 420 93 28/64
123 420 61 28/64

...and one of the tie rod boots is split



Boots from the dealer are NLA

...the idler arm looked bad too but having taken it to bits it doesn't look too bad.

201 460 00 50
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:16 PM
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For sealing the timing case, you might want to look at threebond 1207B or 1194, the 1207B is a form in place gasket and is used to seal joints that have some space to account for squishing.

The 1194 is used for flat surfaces like motorcycle engine or porsche/vw/subaru crankcases. They are fantastic products.

The 1207B can be had at toyota too - they use it to seal oil sumps, timing cases etc. etc.
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:21 PM
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For sealing the timing case, you might want to look at threebond 1207B or 1194, the 1207B is a form in place gasket and is used to seal joints that have some space to account for squishing.

The 1194 is used for flat surfaces like motorcycle engine or porsche/vw/subaru crankcases. They are fantastic products.

The 1207B can be had at toyota too - they use it to seal oil sumps, timing cases etc. etc.
I'm about to upload the pictures of the finished job - I used loctite 5926

I'm pretty sure threebond products are difficult to get here - more's the pity. We're lucky to have Permatex as an alternative to loctite. (Same company now though isn't it?)
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:51 PM
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A little bit of progress today...

RTV on the front timing cover



I cleaned the surfaces with Eastwoods pre - officially used for painting but hey it works well for other stuff.

You don't need much RTV - hurts your hand squeezing it through the smallest nozzle size - no pain no gain!



Not much came out when I fitted the cover - just about right (in my oh so humble opinion). I wiped off the excess.

Fitted the sump too - so much progress I'm getting giddy.



Hylomar gasket dresser is being used to try and stop leaks.

It turns your gaskets into fly paper - so working under your veranda (not the best place in the world to do this I must say) can be a bit precarious if it gets windy...
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Old 09-18-2013, 10:23 AM
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Remember folks - this is the car I didn't want to take to bits. This is a disease. No way out. I'm getting fed up - I know that the thigh bone is connected to the knee bone but why do I have to remove the head to fix it?

Oh well at least I'm filling up the PP server with pictures. I wonder when I'll get told to stop?

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You are currently using 78.21 MB to store 1,523 uploaded attachments.
Not bad since 2009 I guess and in modern computing terms not too too much space?
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Keep up the good work.

I'm enjoying the insanity.
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:45 PM
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I'm enjoying the insanity.
I'm not sure I am anymore.

Now I've got the steering box out I've caught myself thinking - that'll bloody leak now I've moved it - the reseal kit is available in Germany for 20 euros...

2014600061 - Febi part 06471 <= Febi "what could possibly go wrong"?
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:55 PM
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I'm not sure I am anymore.

Now I've got the steering box out I've caught myself thinking - that'll bloody leak now I've moved it - the reseal kit is available in Germany for 20 euros...

2014600061 - Febi part 06471 <= Febi "what could possibly go wrong"?
Well, they do call it a disease, don't they?
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:22 PM
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It is going soooooooooo

sssssssssslllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...



That's all folks...
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