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Old 09-13-2001, 06:22 PM
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I think the additives in oils for diesels is probably better for the engine. As Larry alluded to they have a different additive package. Generally they have more additives and keep the engine cleaner. I did read a Car and Driver editorial that did mention that there is a chance these extra additives may harm the catalytic converter. I run Rotella in my gas motorhome (no converter) because it works especially hard. Otherwise I run Mobil 1 synthetics 15-50 summer and 10-30 winter.
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Old 09-14-2001, 09:19 AM
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The gas cars and mileages that I currently have or have had that have run Chevron Delo 400 multigrade with no catalytic converter or any other kind of problems are as follows:

'78 Ford 4X4 bought new in '77, 82K miles about 1/2 mile at a time started using Delo about 12 years ago. No catalytic converter, but no other problems.
'88 Vette bought at 70K miles, now 123K miles
'88 300E bought at 80K miles, now 199K miles
'98 4Runner bought new, 99K miles
'94 Windstar bought new 112K miles, blew head gasket at 100K, but nothing related to cat or such


Those are the gas cars that have had no oil except Delo while I owned them. In addition to this, I have about a million miles of experience with Delo in diesel cars, trucks and tractors. The top four in the above list I still own and are all in top running order.

I think that the Car and Driver comment may have come from an isolated instance where a universal grade oil was used in an engine that was burning A LOT OF OIL. If the engine is not passing oil to the combustion chamber, how could the type of oil being used have anything at all to do with anything going on in the exhaust tract?

BTW, My new C Class and my daughters new Ranger pickup are on a Mobil One diet.

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Old 09-15-2001, 11:44 AM
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loubapache,

Update on Mobil 1 price at Target:

I went to my local Target yesterday and saw that the price of Mobil 1 is over $4/Qt. Thought I let you know so that you don't make a special trip.
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Old 09-15-2001, 12:03 PM
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Thanks, rjnonnie.

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Old 09-15-2001, 03:16 PM
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I was at Wal Mart this morning and had five quarts in my hands priced at $4.47 each. I stumbled across a display with 5 Quarts in one jug for $17.97. I got a few of the 5 quart jugs. It takes exactly 5 quarts for my daughters pick up. Very convenient.

BTW. Remember that Mobil One and Mobil DELVAC One are two different products. The Mobil DELVAC One would be much more desirable for diesel engine use.

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Old 09-17-2001, 10:54 PM
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My test of Delvac 1 in a gas engine vehicle was abruptly terminated yesterday after 8000 miles. A Mercury Grand Marquis slammed into the back of our Toyota 4 Runner. Pushed us over the curb into a tree 65 feet from the point of impact, and rolled us over (full 360 degree slow barrel roll). Observations as follows:

1. Engine seemed to like the Delvac 1. Zero oil consumption in 8000 miles except for topping off after filter change at 5000. Oil was getting a bit darker than the Mobil 1 used to, which, to me, indicates it was doing it's job.

2. Buckle your seat belts. All 4 doors opened when the truck rolled. We would have been seriously injured if not belted in. As it is, we are still picking glass out of our elbows, but no other real injuries. You may be the best driver on the road, but the other guy damn sure isn't. Buckle up, please.

3. Headrests are a good thing.

4. HANG UP AND DRIVE! If you are jabbering on a cell phone, you aren't watching where you are going. Pull over if you want to talk on the damn phone.

5. A cell phone, when propelled by an airbag, can pretty well take an ear off. All the blood sure messes up the upholstry.

6. If you are driving an SUV, you might want to reconsider if you really need one or not. If this had been a normal sedan or wagon, it would not have rolled.
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Paul- hope no injuries have resulted in your unfortuant happening.

good luck and best wishes
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Old 09-18-2001, 05:54 PM
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Thanks -fad. We are OK, except for still picking glass out of our elbows where they went into the windows. Due to slow city bureaucracy we still don't even know who hit us. Police report will not be available until Thursday.
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Old 09-18-2001, 08:29 PM
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Glad you're okay!

First and foremost, I'm glad you're okay! It SUCKS to get hit from behind-hope you at least saw it coming. Now, you were rear-ended and the airbag(s) blew? Tough break...as I understand it, Benzes (with bags of course) only deploy the bags upon frontal impact, and then only when the impact's within a certain variance from direct-on. But then again, with MBZs the SRS system usually includes seatbelt pretensioners too, so you're forced firmly into place in a hit from the rear so bags are obviated.

And the doors opened? Definite design fault-doors shouldn't open unless you ask them/demand them to. Shame on you Toyota

Cell phone implications? I presume you'll be a hands-free proponent henceforth, eh

Your accident is certainly an advertisement for more sophisticated safety systems and proper engineering. I've owned several Toyotas, and a nasty rear-end collision is a big part of why I changed marques (sucker folded like a wet paper cup). Being a guy with a wife and 3 kiddies, most in my circumstance choose either an SUV or a minivan. I chose, for the same money, a used 300TE. It took a hit to the rear quarter once, and I was amazed at how little damage there was.

And I hope I NEVER take advantage of its passive safety features.

So, what will you replace that truck with?
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Old 09-19-2001, 10:27 PM
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Nope, didn't see it coming.

Our vehicle did not have an airbag. It was the car that hit us which popped the airbag.

I stand at least partly corrected as far as the doors opening. Linda remembers opening hers. I don't remember opening mine. It is possible that a rescuer opened my door. The 2 back doors, however, were locked, so they would not have been opened from the outside. I believe they opened during the rollover. The damage seems to confirm that.

I will no longer use a cell phone while driving. Not even hands free type. You shouldn't either. You really can't afford to.

Not sure what to replace it with. Don't know what the insurance company will do, but I bet they won't pay what it was worth. Replacement cost has nearly doubled in the last 10 years. Might look at E320 wagons. Might go with a full size pickup. Will have to do some studying and looking in the next few weeks.
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