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Old 04-06-2003, 01:31 PM
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Smile 87 190e 8v needing attention...

Hello everyone!

I have an 87 190e with several small problems. Okay, some are bigger, and I am thinking of changing engines out but I'll leave that for later. I really want to fix this car up because I really love it... It's a great car, and it has saved my life and that of my wife not once...but twice(80mph avoidance of TWO cars that came at me from different sides meant doing an emergency S in the road to avoid the cars--The car turned and handled the turn so well, that it didn't slide or lose control, but pushed down hard enough at the corners that it split the tire). Anyway, I REALLY want to work on this car, and not dump it just because it's getting old.

First problem, heater motor doesn't work anymore, it was random but now it's Extremely rare for it to turn on at all. The fuse is fine(Don't know about this strip fuse, if it's that thing in the little black case, then it's fine). I'm assuming brushes, but I'll be damned if I can figure out where the thing is, and my haynes manual is missing. I also need to take out the area around the fan control because it is stuck on high. I need detailed instructions on how to get to the blower motor to test it for brushes, and how to get the fan control cover off. Pretend I'm an idiot.

Second problem: There is a kind of rattle sound(sounds like a dime or something) in the shifter area, I pulled up the plate but couldnt' see anything. If I put my hand on the shifter and kind of keep it snug, it stops. Any ideas?

Third problem: One of my cam lobes is looking worn, I'm thinking about replacing it, but was wondering if I need to go ahead and adjust valves and the like while I'm at it. 8valve overhead.

Anyway, any help would be extremely appreciated.
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Old 04-06-2003, 02:59 PM
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Welcome to the forum-

Regarding your questions- for the heater blower, there are lots of posts but try this one: R&R heater motor

Regarding the shifter, it sounds like your shifter bushings need to be replaced. Use the search feature using key words such as: shifter bushings 190e

The 190E 8v do not require valve adjustments, but you might want to check the entire valve train while you are in there.

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Old 04-07-2003, 12:54 AM
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Welcome to the forum-

Regarding your questions- for the heater blower, there are lots of posts but try this one: R&R heater motor

Regarding the shifter, it sounds like your shifter bushings need to be replaced. Use the search feature using key words such as: shifter bushings 190e

The 190E 8v do not require valve adjustments, but you might want to check the entire valve train while you are in there.

Keep us posted,

Haasman
You are THE MAN! Thanks! Even more incentive for repair came today. We had a flood from all the rain, my neighbors truck died coming out of his driveway(ranger), I pulled out and went on to work, the water came almost 3 inches up the(where we have a dip in our neighborhood street) and water didn't even come in! And she ran right through it! I do love that car.
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Old 04-07-2003, 02:58 AM
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The 190's are amazing cars. They have incredibly ridged bodies and are very fun driving cars.

I always thought the 4-cylinders were dogs. I was so wrong. They are great running engines- Love to rev and are quite torquey. The cars have amazing brakes. Great feeling in being able to know you can place the car anywhere you want on the road.

People who have never ridden in them are always amazed at the car. It is a real pleasure to dry a 190 thats right: Shocks and suspension, engine and trans.

Have you changed your front and rear sway bar bushings? Easy to do, cheap and a great difference.

Some say a great way make the car corner flatter is to use the 16v front and rear sway bars. Front is easy, rear requires lowering the rear sub-frame with susp and differential. .... someday.

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Old 04-08-2003, 05:23 AM
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Yeah, I started yesterday working on her. The suspension is tip-top(one of the things I can do without technical assistance) and she handles like a dream. You turn the wheel, you better be sure that is where you wanted to go! Holds corners better than any sedan I've ever driven(guy before me beefed up the suspension sway bars and put on new springs and the like). The engine runs fairly well, but it is tuned out of spec I think, and I'm not really that sure how to bring it back in. I already removed the stack block thing, so that I can use the 3mm allen to adjust fuel, but until I know how to proceed, I will leave off temporarily. I plan on replacing the cam(and if necessary the rocker arms) this summer, and the chain as well(though it only has 30k on it). I figure since I have 200k on it, it might be time to replace the injectors as well .

Replaced the tranny filter and refilled yesterday, had two instances where it wouldn't shift upward in gears but didn't happen since(maybe air in the system?). If it weren't for the auto tranny, she would be so much quicker. Plenty of power, but automatic just eats it up. Planning on changing out the rear end gearing if there is a choice, the gearing is too low for my tastes, I like highway travel, and don't care for speed starts.
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