Praise the Lord Brother Bot. Amen to You. The Lord is King. Mission Accomplished. Iraq is liberated. We are safe from WMDs and your man G.W. Bush made it all happen. The economy is strong -- Jesus has risen.

Praise the Lord -- Mission Accomplished. Stem cell research is bad, crippled childred are God's will and the thousands of dead people in Iraq have passed for the will of Jesus Christ.

The Jews are the chosen ones, and we should support our "friends" -- The USS Liberty means nothing, as those deaths are also the will of your Lord, Jesus Christ.

Praise the Lord!

Mission Accomplished!

In God We Trust.

BACK. AWAY. FROM. THE. BONG.

Amen. Praise the Lord.

What leaves a bad taste in my mouth is his parading the "snowflake children" (do I have that right?) in front of the cameras to show that it's a moral issue.

It would seem that we can indeed have it both ways. Let anyone who wants to adopt an embro have one. Or as many as they can carry (to term, that is). Then we can donate the extra few hundred grand of them to research.

Note that this argument is only meant to cover the moral aspect of doing the research on would-be-discarded embros. Nothing at all about federal support for that research.

Do I support Stem Cell Research? Absolutely. How is it tied to Iraq? I don't know. Do I support the action in Iraq? Yes. As I have said, it matters not how the resources are allocated when it comes to stem cell. If we had $100 left in the budget, Bush would not give $1 to stem cell research. So the question is moot. If the war ended tomorrow and every muslim in the world were killed and we were at Condition Green and trade was at a high and we were rich, Bush would not spend $1 on stem cell research. Therefore, the question of allocation of resources is moot. If the world were to end via a meteor from space in the next month, Bush would not spend any money on stem cell research. If space aliens were to abduct him and threaten him with certain death if he didn't spend $1 on SCR, he wouldn't. I hope that is clear now.

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Anti abortion people have always used children and other graphic images to get their point across. It is a scare tactic. It would be easier to say "If you don't believe in abortion, don't get one and leave me alone." However, that is never the case. It is a case of me believing something and therefore you cannot or can do it. Nothing new here. Children have always been used for pretty much anything. In Gulf War I, Hussien had a set of coveralls with the words "Baby Milk Factory" in english written over the back and paraded him for CNN to say we bombed a factory that would set back the production of baby formula and children would starve.

Since he cannot overturn Roe v Wade, he is trying to chip away at it and make sure that what he has chipped away stays. If we discover something spacticular about stem cells, it would swing the balance in favor of abortion since abortion would not be such a bad thing. After all, you are having an abortion, which is bad, but the cells are being used for helping people so it is mitigated. This way, you have the whole guilt trip as opposed to half a trip.

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Doh! Dude-man has a serious chubber for Israel. Keeps the lurkers entertained, though.

C'mon AKLIM, what if Cheney awarded the stem cell contract to Halliburton, huh? And if the Jews were behind it? And if Bush could clone Ken Lay? Didja ever think of that?

Bot

No chubby for Ish-Rah-L -- I say let let them florish!

Just don't do it with our blood!!!

Long live Ish-Rah-L...

Amen, Christ Bless You -- Neo-Cons Rule! Amen - Praise the Lord, Christ is All.

Amen!

Is it 2008 yet? Nader might have a chance this time.

Am I the only one that fails to see his link?

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Researchers find easier way to make stem cells
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor
Sun Oct 12, 1:03 PM ET

Researchers trying to find ways to transform ordinary skin cells into powerful stem cells said on Sunday they found a shortcut by "sprinkling" a chemical onto the cells.

Adding the chemical allowed the team at the Harvard Stem Cell Institute in Massachusetts to use just two genes to transform ordinary human skin cells into more powerful induced pluripotent stem cells or iPS cells.

"This study demonstrates there's a possibility that instead of using genes and viruses to reprogram cells, one can use chemicals," said Dr. Doug Melton, who directed the study published in the journal Nature Biotechnology.

Melton said Danwei Huangfu, a postdoctoral researcher in his lab, developed the new method.

"The exciting thing about Danwei's work is you can see for the first time that you could sprinkle chemicals on cells and make stem cells," Melton, a Howard Hughes Medical Institute Investigator, said in a statement.

Stem cells are the body's master cells, giving rise to all the tissues, organs and blood. Embryonic stem cells are considered the most powerful kinds of stem cells, as they have the potential to give rise to any type of tissue.

Doctors hope to someday use them to transform medicine. Melton, for instance, wants to find a way to regenerate the pancreatic cells destroyed in type 1 diabetes and perhaps cure that disease.

INSERTING GENES

But pluripotent stem cells such as the embryonic cells are difficult to make, requiring the use of an embryo or cloning technology. Many people also object to their use, and several countries, including the United States, limit funding for such experiments.

In the past year, several teams of scientists have reported finding a handful of genes that can transform ordinary skin cells into iPS cells, which look and act like embryonic stem cells.

To get these genes into the cells, they have had to use retroviruses, which integrate their own genetic material into the cells they infect. This can be dangerous and can cause tumors and perhaps other effects.

Last month U.S. researchers did the same thing using a harmless virus called an adenovirus, but the method was not efficient. And last week, Shinya Yamanaka of Kyoto University in Japan, who discovered iPS cells in mice, used a loop of genetic material called a plasmid to reformat the cells.

Huangfu tried treating the cells first with valproic acid. After she did this, it only took two of the four usual genes to reprogram the cells into iPS cells, she reported.

This is good because the other two genes usually needed can promote cancer.

The Melton team used retroviruses to carry the two genes in but suggest they might not be necessary.

"These results support the possibility of reprogramming through purely chemical means, which would make therapeutic use of reprogrammed cells safer and more practical," they wrote in their report.

Huangfu said the valproic acid unraveled the chromatin -- the physical structure of the chromosomes -- making it possible to get in and alter the DNA more easily.

"We may need two types of chemicals, one to loosen the chromatin structure, and one to reprogram. We are looking for that reprogramming chemical, and it should be possible to find it eventually," she said.

Were embryonic stem cells used in the research leading to this discovery?

Let me see if I understand this. Money (probably large sums) are being spent in finding a way to re-invent the wheel when wheels are already there for the taking. This is being done to bypass some stupid objection raised by religions.

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I believe if you do the research you'll find that medical ethicists, regardless of religion, are divided over embryonic stem cell research.

To my knowledge, it is perfectly legal to conduct embryonic stem cell research except from one funding source.

If somatic epithelial cells can be forced to revert to stem cells, why not use them?

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