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Old 06-17-2005, 03:35 AM
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I put My ISSPRO Pyrometer and 0-15psi boost gauges on order tonight, my manifold is ready to go on when I get the pyro, and an intercooler is on the way soon.
I was taking a intercooler that I have from an AUDI and placing it up in the engine bay on the w126. I think I can do it with little to no length in plumbing. It'll all tuck away nicely on the passenger side in between the headlight assembly and the overflow bottle for the radiator.

Both of my gauges are ISSPRO brand.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:55 AM
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I was taking a intercooler that I have from an AUDI and placing it up in the engine bay on the w126. I think I can do it with little to no length in plumbing. It'll all tuck away nicely on the passenger side in between the headlight assembly and the overflow bottle for the radiator.

Both of my gauges are ISSPRO brand.
I just got the 0-15 since I don't plan on going past the 14.0psi mark. I'm getting the R3607TR since it has nifty color markings pre-set. I really wanted an intake temp gauge but the cheapest I could find was $205!

I don't know about the W126, but my AUDI 5000 intercooler won't come close to fitting my W123 without cutting into the fender and installing some very tight bends in the air stream. The Volvo 740 intercooler would be sweet, but the oil cooler blocks the drivers side outlet.
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:01 AM
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I don't know about the W126, but my AUDI 5000 intercooler won't come close to fitting my W123 without cutting into the fender and installing some very tight bends in the air stream. The Volvo 740 intercooler would be sweet, but the oil cooler blocks the drivers side outlet.
This seems to be a AUDI intercooler (looks just like mine...pretty good size)

If you have seen the engine bay on a w126, there is lots of open space up near the front corners (unfortunately the good doctor doesn't have this space as his battery is in the way)
There is enough space for the IC and some ductwork to get air across it.
I would probably run a temp controlled fan. This IC has a temp sender or two on its outlet so I could make up some circuity to turn on a little grouping of helper fans.

Its not the most air flowing area but this volvo IC I have just will not work without modifying the radiator and the AC system (both of which I like on my 300SD)

I will take some pictures tomorrow of the IC's that I have and also the proposed area to be installed into.

I documented the installation of my pyrometer but never made the webpage. Maybe I will get around to it if anyone would be interested in the step by step instructions

The IP adjustment page is almost done...I will put it up in place of my first incorrect one.


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Old 06-17-2005, 05:45 AM
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DAMN
I never knew that place was there
once I get my tuning done..I want to roll down there and see if they have a dyno. They might even run me for free considering a diesel mercedes on their dyno would be rare! lol

So cool...thank you

I know this town like the back of my hand and never noticed that little freckle..
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Old 06-18-2005, 01:30 AM
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Okay I put up the new link to the site on the first post. Check it out if you wish
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Old 06-18-2005, 01:39 AM
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This seems to be a AUDI intercooler (looks just like mine...pretty good size)

I will take some pictures tomorrow of the IC's that I have and also the proposed area to be installed into.

I documented the installation of my pyrometer but never made the webpage. Maybe I will get around to it if anyone would be interested in the step by step instructions
That's the same AUDI IC I've got. I'd be happy to get $35 for each if anybody local wants my AUDI or Volvo IC's.

I've got a pretty good idea of what I need to do since my manifolds are not even mounted yet. Still, a guide would be a good thing to post for everybody.

With your pyrometer, did you get it with the quick connect or the eyelet connections?
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Old 06-18-2005, 02:31 AM
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That's the same AUDI IC I've got. I'd be happy to get $35 for each if anybody local wants my AUDI or Volvo IC's.

I've got a pretty good idea of what I need to do since my manifolds are not even mounted yet. Still, a guide would be a good thing to post for everybody.

With your pyrometer, did you get it with the quick connect or the eyelet connections?
My pyro has the eyelet connections. I like these espically when dealing with the exteme conditions under the turbo.

I will do my setup for the w126 body using (hopefully) this IC.
I may want an extra one so I will see how the funds currently are.
Thanks!

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Old 06-18-2005, 01:34 PM
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This seems to be a AUDI intercooler (looks just like mine...pretty good size)

If you have seen the engine bay on a w126, there is lots of open space up near the front corners (unfortunately the good doctor doesn't have this space as his battery is in the way)
There is enough space for the IC and some ductwork to get air across it.
I would probably run a temp controlled fan. This IC has a temp sender or two on its outlet so I could make up some circuity to turn on a little grouping of helper fans.

Its not the most air flowing area but this volvo IC I have just will not work without modifying the radiator and the AC system (both of which I like on my 300SD)

I will take some pictures tomorrow of the IC's that I have and also the proposed area to be installed into.

I documented the installation of my pyrometer but never made the webpage. Maybe I will get around to it if anyone would be interested in the step by step instructions

The IP adjustment page is almost done...I will put it up in place of my first incorrect one.

I've been combing Ebat looking at different Intercoolers for some time now..looking at dimensions and layouts....I have yet to find a way to fit one anyplace on my W116. Without using SPAL fans and setting back the radiator as close to the waterpump as I can to allow for an intercooler up front. ANd I am not ready to go to those measures yet as I have not determined if the gains will be worth the cost and the work. Will be getting to my IP this afternoon or tomorrow at the latest,
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Old 06-18-2005, 01:37 PM
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Iranian woman in her 30's owns it....Its mostly a Bakery (A damn good one) with a deli type sales and has a real old style butchers section where they cut meat to order........
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Old 06-18-2005, 01:42 PM
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A spare cheapo spark plug wrench socket (the larger spark plug size) can be modified to make this spanner as thats what I used...the material is very hard and it has a hex head on it you can use a box end wrench to turn...
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Old 06-20-2005, 07:41 PM
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Brandon,
Nice job on the website. I chose to remove the rear IP supoport bracket from the engine block and leave the VCV, shut down , and rack damper, in place on the IP. With the rear bracket out you can remove the front three bolts and grab the IP by the ALDA an pull up and back. I didn't remove the heater hose either but it is rather tight. Here is a pic of my test setup with a ford probe/ mazda MX6 intercooler
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Old 06-20-2005, 07:45 PM
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Brandon,
Nice job on the website. I chose to remove the rear IP supoport bracket from the engine block and leave the VCV, shut down , and rack damper, in place on the IP. With the rear bracket out you can remove the front three bolts and grab the IP by the ALDA an pull up and back. I didn't remove the heater hose either but it is rather tight. Here is a pic of my test setup with a ford probe/ mazda MX6 intercooler


Is there enough airflow over that IC?
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Old 06-20-2005, 08:31 PM
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Brandon,
Nice job on the website. I chose to remove the rear IP supoport bracket from the engine block and leave the VCV, shut down , and rack damper, in place on the IP. With the rear bracket out you can remove the front three bolts and grab the IP by the ALDA an pull up and back. I didn't remove the heater hose either but it is rather tight. Here is a pic of my test setup with a ford probe/ mazda MX6 intercooler
That is a w126 body correct?
Do you have any way to measure pre/post IC temperatures?
The AUDI intercooler I am using has a temp sender built into it so I am hoping to incorperate that into the setup.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:13 PM
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Another intriguing IC install puts the unit over on its side, then funnels airflow over and through the fins. Probably would need an additional cooling fan to augment airflow. I think because OM61X heads aren't crossflow, you'll need to overengineer any charge air cooling medium in order to overcome the proximity to superheated exhaust plumbing--H2O injection is your best bet if a largish FMIC can't be accomodated. YMMV
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Old 06-20-2005, 11:27 PM
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The current adjustment on the 300SD has it in the low 10 second 0-60mph.

I could do better but at the very top I have to take my foot out of it becuase I still need to bring the fuel down slightly.
Was looking at the intercooler again...Too bad the inlet on the turbo wasn't the outlet!
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