Anyway,


What if he had more than one gun?

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He would still have to drop the 10-round gun, and pull out the other gun, once the first 10-rounds were expended, thus giving the rushing opportunity that Tom was referring to after 10 shots, not after the higher number of shots available with larger magazines.

One in each hand and a rifle on his back would negate that scenario. The fact is that magazine size would not have stopped much if he had to plan for that contingency.

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One in each hand? Take my last reply and multiply it by two. Point still holds up.

The rate of reload is not a huge factor. He fires one till empty and then fires the other to a point of cover. He then reloads fairly quickly.

Point is this, amount of time he takes or the method employed to reload really doesn't change the outcome with no armed resistance or the threat of armed resistance.

An air marshall styled security force would have made him think twice about entering or could have presented resistance once in progress.

Doesn't have to be an armed teacher, just someone ready for this kind of event. The fact that this has happened before shines a glaring light on this. Security and training needs to be done. Enough trying to use these events for gun control agendas. Time to secure the children.

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Could the US learn from Australia's gun-control laws?
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2012/1224/Could-the-US-learn-from-Australia-s-gun-control-laws

Though gun-related deaths did not suddenly end in Australia, gun-related homicides dropped 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. Suicides by gun plummeted by 65 percent, and robberies at gunpoint also dropped significantly. Many said there was a close correlation between the sharp declines and the buyback program.

A paper for the American Law and Economics Review by Andrew Leigh of the Australian National University and Christine Neill of the Wilfrid Laurier University reports that the buyback led to a drop in the firearm suicide rates of almost 80 percent, "with no significant effect on non-firearm death rates. The effect on firearm homicides is of similar magnitude but is less precise.”

Perhaps the most convincing statistic for many, though, is that in the decade before the Port Arthur massacre, there were 11 mass shootings in the country. Since the new law, there hasn’t been one shooting spree.

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.

Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," D.C. Examiner, April 8, 2009.

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Mod: Increase "Factory" 10-Round Magazines to 20-Round Capacity - AR15.Com Archive or modified his magazines?

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I kind of get the feeling that none of what any of us here say will have any real impact.
And completely ignoring someone's comments and opinions because they live beyond our northern border is quite close minded.
Where is this ad hominem sentiment when we get posts from down under?

Personally I believe his opinions and input to be every bit a valid as anyone else's, but if it goes to referendum, then he will have to sit on the sidelines.
That is, if he really is from Canada... after all, this IS the interweb, we could all be something other than we present.

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NOW we're getting somewhere....

Larry played the 'Hitler' card, and Dubya played the 'racist'....

Sweet!! OD at it's finest

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1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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Where exactly did he call Dubya a drunk? Are you assuming that all eggnog has to have alcohol in it??

It is very entertaining!!!

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This one is new to Me; what rights and freedoms are Anti-gun People trying to hang on to?

I know that the pro-gun People tend to believe in the Constitution and focus on the 2nd amendment.

I know that I believe backing of and compromising on the 2nd amendment will eventually compromise the rest of the Constitution and view that as a bad thing not just for Myself but the whole Country.

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Facts are facts; People over 100 years ago found away to get around the limitaitons set by their primative Fire Arms.

The same thing will be done by someone willing to break the Law to avoid legal limitations set on Fire Arms. So I don't agree that what you have planned will increase Public Safety.

And, for Me it is not just a loss of Freedom I worry about.
If the Anti-gun Folks got the laws and restrictions passed they want passed they would turn Me into a Crimminal with Me just sitting here and doing nothing.

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An offer doesn't have to be listened to, accepted or even responed to - it's simply an offer of an idea. You want this to go away but I don't think it will. It's becoming the '' in thing '' to go out and shoot stuff up. It's also that time of year where some people go a bit coo-coo.

This is what I have:
12 gauge Remignton pump SG. It's plugged so it only holds three shells which is the legal requirement while hunting. I was checked two weeks ago deer hunting and I didn't end up with a fine. All of our group passed muster.
10-22 Ruger .22 caliber. 10 round clip with a scope. I rarely use it.
Bell .50 caliber flint lock muzzel loader. It's deactivated right now.
.75 caliber Tower musket repro. I use it for reinacting - mostly War of 1812 and sme French and Indian stuff. I was an extra in the Last of the Mohicans.

No one has ever come to look at my gun safe. There was lots of talk about that happening when the legislation came out but it never came true. The afe wasn't that much - don't remember the actual amount.

I find it kind of interesting about all of the what if senarios that people come up with. Most of them are just silly.

Since when does it matter where you live, or what country you live, to make a post on this forum? I live within three miles of the Michigan border but I'd crossing into another country, it's like another world. For the most part Americans and Canadians are very similar but those similar things are driffing further apart every year.

We have similar values but different cultures. You in particular would find the relaxed attitude within Canada rather unerving, I would think.