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Old 08-06-2013, 05:59 PM
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Hard to say whether that's true or not. Even without race as part of the story, having a neighborhood watchman arm himself and then fatally shoot someone would have been newsworthy. The 2nd Amendment can't match race when it comes to media hysteria, but it is still an important issue. Race is what made this story explode in the media, but I think it would have been national news even if the decedent had been a 17-year-old white boy.
For whatever reason, we just see this differently. IMO race, and a liberal political agenda ( anti 2nd amendment, etc) was the reason for the story.
How many dozens of black youth have been killed by gunfire in Chicago, alone, since Z and TM became a national story? If the death of a black youth had been the reason for the story--there would been dozens or hundred more stories coming out of Chicago, alone. Why does the Chicago political machine hate blacks? Oh, its run by blacks--guess we can't use that stir up the pot of racial tension.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:27 PM
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For whatever reason, we just see this differently. IMO race, and a liberal political agenda ( anti 2nd amendment, etc) was the reason for the story.
That's what I said (except for the "liberal" part).
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How many dozens of black youth have been killed by gunfire in Chicago, alone, since Z and TM became a national story? If the death of a black youth had been the reason for the story--there would been dozens or hundred more stories coming out of Chicago, alone.
You lost me. Are you saying that race was a reason for the story getting so much attention or that race was not a reason?

And I wonder why Rush Limbaugh would single out Chicago along the lines that you mention - Are Chicago Murders Being Used as a Gun Law Optic? - The Rush Limbaugh Show Could it have anything to do with a certain black president from Chicago? No way that could be.

I don't know why the lack of coverage of Chicago murders makes the Zimmerman story any more or less newsworthy. It's an entirely different type of story. Maybe you could explain the logic on that one.
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Why does the Chicago political machine hate blacks? Oh, its run by blacks--guess we can't use that stir up the pot of racial tension.
If the Chicago machine hates blacks, then it must not be happy that violent crime is declining there. Chicago is on pace to have the lowest murder rate in 50 years.Chicago's Homicide Rate Does Not Rank Near the Top Among American Cities
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:08 AM
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hardly, but neighborhood watch is a legitimate reason to be on the lookout for suspicious people in your neighborhood. it helps stop crime.

Z is who he is. If TM had ben white or brown, we'd have never heard this story. It was spun up by the media and race baiters.......

yeah, shame TM is dead. Shame GZ will live his life looking over his shoulder. Shame the police don't protect & serve any more....shame for a lot of stuff, but that is our world we live in. the bestt thing we can do is to try and change the culture of thug life & crime that affects our young men of all colors.
Z had completed His Neighborhood Watch responsibilities when He reported what He saw.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:40 AM
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PPP lists Obama voter registered Democrat Zimmerman as potential GOP presidential candidate in an election he wouldn't even be eligible to run in...

Dem Polling Firm PPP Names Registered Dem George Zimmerman Among Potential 2016 GOP Nominees
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:47 PM
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Sometimes a crime may appear to languish for years before a suspect is charged. Sometimes it maybe a racial bias. Sometimes it is not.

How we determine the degree to which racial interests weigh into a charge being filed has a lot to do with the racial perspective we bring to the table.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:52 PM
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:52 PM
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Sometimes a crime may appear to languish for years before a suspect is charged. Sometimes it maybe a racial bias. Sometimes it is not. ... How we determine the degree to which racial interests weigh into a charge being filed has a lot to do with the racial perspective we bring to the table.
Throw in a factor related to whether the DA is up for re-election or needs a photo-op and the charges are as variable as what flavor of Jello can be nailed, successfully, to a tree...

BTW...which way is the wind blowing right now?
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:29 PM
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I wonder if his wife was wearing a hoodie at the time?

Police investigate incident between George Zimmerman, wife - U.S. News
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:29 PM
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:37 PM
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It sounds like George felt threatened. I'm surprised he didn't shoot them both.
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Old 09-10-2013, 07:16 AM
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It sounds like George felt threatened. I'm surprised he didn't shoot them both.
Somewhere, (I have read, -- was it maybe maybe a John Sanford book?) cops get nervous that certain kinds of people that carry, legally, also have the "urge".

He sounds like maybe he is one of those "just give me a reason" kind of guys...

Gives a bad name to every single other of the law abiding folks out there that legally carry, don't you think?
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Oh yeah, this is legit...
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Oh yeah, this is legit...
Can't be, right?
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Old 09-09-2013, 07:26 PM
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Oh yeah, this is legit...
Yeah, it's hard to find out your hero is a doucebag after all.

911 call George Zimmerman's wife
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:24 PM
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Yeah, it's hard to find out your hero is a doucebag after all.

911 call George Zimmerman's wife
I have no heroes. Ask her "wheres the money?".

Reeks of a race to a book deal and a consoling on Oprah.
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