Well We where Kids not professional Boxers. We were not injuring each other. Although I always ended up with a Bloody Lips in any fight I had when I was a kid. I guess I did not have enough sense to move My Head out of the way.

I can't remember what started the Fight and while the Guy was someone that went to My Elementary School I never had Him in any of My Classes so I did not know Him.
I did not even know his first Name.

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TM was on top of GZ pounding his head into the side walk while telling him, "You are going to DIE tonight". TM was doing some Whup Ass to GZs head whereas GZ was getting his Ass Whipped. BTW, a head injury can get you killed fairly easily.

Sounds like an interesting fight you had with the guy. I've seen that type of behavior before, for no apparent reason one fighter drops the fight and walks off.

I didn't know you were there.

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None of that has much bearing on what GZ did to set the fight in motion. It's not really known. Gun rights advocates are big on the notion of using a gun to dissuade an attacker. If one is using one's fist to dissuade an attacker, it doesn't happen in the blink of an eye. One generally needs to whoop the other to insure that they back off.

I don't buy the "You are going to DIE tonight" allegation. GZ had a lot of time to concoct a story and the extent of the witness testimony against him was well known in advance of the trial.

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Based on what? Other than your own bias. Z's story was remarkably consistent from the first telling on; some details differences, but all-in-all, a pretty consistent story.

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Whup-Ass is OFFENSIVE while ASS Whippin' is DEFENSIVE. When someone says, "I am going to WHUP your ASS" they are on the offense. Getting your Ass Whipped means being on the receiving end of Whup Ass.

I couldn't help but notice this very precise definition of "Whup ass and Ass whipping. It made me wonder if these definitions come from Wiki or what?

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Maybe Z hears little voices that no one else hears that tell Him stuff.

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But but but a kid was killed for NO real reason. Lets attach a bunch of agendas to this in his honor and make change.

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REALLY?! You two children have to argue over whether the cal was to 911 or the non emergency police number?
Does that matter in any way regarding the outcome?
Grow up.

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Sorry MS, I have a hard time accepting Johnny-Come-Lately spewing forth his own 'facts' which are patently untrue.

As a person who expresses (with some regularity) his disgust with the lies and half-truths reported in the media, I figured you would understand.


Besides.... it's like shooting fish in a barrel, and gave me good cause to post a bunch of Big Lebowski quotes... that's always a good time.

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Its a street thing.

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As long as I can remember it is definitely a street thing. Here's another thought.

TM had a working cell phone in his hand and could have easily dialed the cops and said, "There is a suspicious cracka' following me - please come to such an such location NOW". But TM didn't do that did he? Why did he not dial the cops and ask for assistance? He could easily have kept running from Z and dialed the cops while in motion.......easy enough to do, right? He was a literal heart beat from his father's house so why didn't he yell out for help?

EXCELLENT point that I have not heard mentioned before!

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Again, when were the cops ever on the side of a black kid in a white hood.

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