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Old 04-14-2014, 04:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure grazing rent free by refusing to pay isn't legal.
That's not the way I read it. There's something about the land belonging to the state while the Feds were trying to. Left or some type of gray are like that.

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With a gang of wanna be sharpshooters, without any semblance of a command and control system





I think the BLM deserves thanks for not putting lives at any further risk from "cowboys."
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:42 PM
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With a gang of wanna be sharpshooters, without any semblance of a command and control system





I think the BLM deserves thanks for not putting lives at any further risk from "cowboys."
please elucidate further from your experienced military perspective.

And, I imagine the Redcoats made similar comments regarding the Patriots as they were getting thier asses shot off...
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:58 PM
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We'll I guess you'll have to evaluate whether or not our elections were legitimate or not.
Challenge it in court if you disagree. Or maybe you see a better way.
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I'm a fan of 2nd Amendment rights, however I believe it says "a well regulated militia" not just well armed. The federal authorities actions to DE-escalate a growing volatile situation, where random people were showing up and taking shooting positions on public highway overpasses, was admirable. Are you factually suggesting that the cross state "militia" members from Montana, Idaho, Arizona and other parts were coordinated enough so that if a shot rang out there would be someone to say "hold your fire" and have it so? Do go on . . .
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Pretty sure not paying taxes is against the law.
That's what George III said, too.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:03 PM
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I'm a fan of 2nd Amendment rights, however I believe it says "a well regulated militia" not just well armed...
My militia is well-regulated. Sorry about yours.
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That's what George III said, too.
So, Mister Bundy is the equivalent to the founding fathers in your view? Sorry, I didn't notice if your comment was dripping in Botnst sarcasm or not.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:06 PM
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So, Mister Bundy is the equivalent to the founding fathers in your view? Sorry, I didn't notice if your comment was dripping in Botnst sarcasm or not.
Thank goodness all of the revolutionary Americans were virtuous.
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I'm a fan of 2nd Amendment rights, however I believe it says "a well regulated militia" not just well armed. The federal authorities actions to DE-escalate a growing volatile situation, where random people were showing up and taking shooting positions on public highway overpasses, was admirable. Are you factually suggesting that the cross state "militia" members from Montana, Idaho, Arizona and other parts were coordinated enough so that if a shot rang out there would be someone to say "hold your fire" and have it so? Do go on . . .
don't know enough about the stucture. however, in that situation, if a shot rang out, both sides would have opened fire almost immediately because of the tension.
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So, Mister Bundy is the equivalent to the founding fathers in your view? Sorry, I didn't notice if your comment was dripping in Botnst sarcasm or not.
The clown sounds like a horses ass to me. Bundy that is, not Bot. But that doesn't change the reality that history is written by the victors and that had the FF's lost they would have been regarded as nothing more than the criminals in open rebellion against their government that they were.

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Reminds me of Lexington. Buncha rightwing gun nuts inhibiting the lawful actions of the military.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:17 PM
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That's not the way I read it. There's something about the land belonging to the state while the Feds were trying to. Left or some type of gray are like that.
Well, your sources are mistaken. At the adoption of the Nevada constitution, all "rights" to remaining undistributed public lands were ceded to the feds, and the state could NOT tax them.

Bundy owns by fee simple title little or no land. Any claims his family had "permission" from someone to graze prior to statehood were lost when the Nevada constitution was ratified. He has been illegally grazing federal lands and refusing to reduce his herds as ordered. He's a scofflaw and a welfare mooch. I'm surprised at your change of heart regarding those who disregard the law Larry. Maybe it's his hat that tugs at your heart strings? I wear one of those too.

"Third. That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; and that lands belonging to citizens of the United States, residing without the said state, shall never be taxed higher than the land belonging to the residents thereof; and that no taxes shall be imposed by said state on lands or property therein belonging to, or which may hereafter be purchased by, the United States, unless otherwise provided by the congress of the United States." Ordinance, Nevada Constitution - Ballotpedia
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:20 PM
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It should be noted that residents of eastern states, like Texas which has virtually NO federal land outside military bases and national parks, would have little experience with issues involving grazing on public lands. It is a uniquely western problem.
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I don't care if they did or not.....
Why not just ceceed from the nation--since once again the pendulum swung the other way,( and you cant stand the damn d's in control --again) maybe you can set up your own little asshat land up in the hills n east okie-land and declare it soverign.... better yet--do it back in misisipi, i like going to Talequa once n a while.

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