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Old 08-30-2002, 01:52 PM
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'86 300E - Need Help Removing Sunroof Wind Deflector

I need to replace the springs for the wind deflector and can't quite figure out how to remove it.

The manual says to carefully push it out of the duct, including the plastic hinge mounts, from both sides by means of a screwdriver. I don't see anywhere to use the screwdriver to accomplish this without forcing something.

There seems to be a wide, short vertical metal tang at the top middle of the hinge mount just inside the forward sealing edge of the opening. Does this tang have to be lifted? What can you lever against?

The inside metal lip of the S/R opening would seem to limit any rearward travel of the hinge mount assembly. Does it travel up and back at an angle?

Can anyone provide detailed instructions, or maybe even pictures?

Any advice is greatly appreciated. I don't want to make any expensive mistakes. (Oops...Snap!$$ Damn!!)

Gary
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Old 08-30-2002, 02:52 PM
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First you have to remove the side rails. There are 4 or 5 phillips head screws retaining the side rails, remove them and left the rails. Next you have to carefully pry up the retraction arms where they attach to the roof, very little pressure needed, once loose from the roof they simply slip off the deflector.

Now you can gently pry out the deflector from it's snap hinges. Start at the right side I think, then pop the left out. The center bearing will come out with the deflector. It is mounted to a small pad which will slip back in the recess upon reassembly.

Much harder to describe than to actually do. If you have difficulty figuring out how to mount the new springs and supports, give a shout.
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Old 08-30-2002, 04:14 PM
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That was my first thought, to just unsnap the deflector from the hinge. The problem is that the outboard hinges are open at the back, but about 30mm inboard of each hinge there's an upright peice preventing rearward movement. I'd have to flex the hinge pin rearward at least 6-8mm to release it over a length of only about 30mm. I think it would likely snap. The book states that the complete hinge body is removed with the deflector. Could mine be different than yours?

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Old 08-30-2002, 11:55 PM
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Is it possible for you to post a picture of the upright piece? The position sounds just about right for the supports used on the new style springs.
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Old 08-31-2002, 03:09 AM
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Sorry, I don't have a digi-cam. It looks kind of like one half of the hinge piece; about 8mm wide and just a little bit taller than the deflector shaft.

Gary
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Old 08-31-2002, 01:53 PM
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Would we be talking about the small tab in the upper right of the attached picture? If so, then your deflector has already had the updated springs installed. Could be the springs themselves need to be replaced again, or it could be that the long leg of the springs weren't properly seated in the holes. There are two small holes at the front edge of the tray where the long leg should be positioned, getting the leg in the hole while setting the deflector shaft in the hinge socket isn't impossible, just takes a couple tries.

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Old 09-05-2002, 01:07 AM
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Mike,

Thanks for providing the picture ( I've gotta get a digital camera one of these days!). Unfortunately, it's not quite the same as mine. The vertical tab on mine is much closer to the end pivot hinge. To see it you have to remove the narrow aluminum trim retaining bar (held on with 5 screws) across the inside front of the sunroof opening.

On closer inspection, it looks like the whole hinge assembly is held into the body with a wide spring tab on top just inside the roof opening. It looks like you have to lift the tab with a screwdriver or something to release it. There doesn't seem to be any good place to lever against other than the hinge itself, though, and it doesn't just lift up easily. I'm a little bit leary of applying too much force just to find out later that there's a special tool or that I should've pushed instead of pulled.

Any other ideas?

Gary
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Old 09-05-2002, 01:40 AM
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I did forget that the very first step was to remove that inner trim piece, then the side rails.

As I recall from looking at JCE's deflector, the disassembly on the 124 is nearly identical to the 126. In fact, at the last get together I was going to replace and updates JCE's springs but we never ran over to the dealer for the parts.

If we were looking at the underside of the deflector, the tab would probably be protruding further, but looking at the topside, that is all that sticks up. Also, at just about the center of the picture you can see where the long leg of the spring fits in a hole in the front edge. The special tool mentioned in the manual is a small plastic wedge, but a small flat tip screwdriver works great.
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