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Q: Am I getting scared?
Not scared, more dissapointed. That's why I'm leaving... (that and I can't get decent beer and fish 'n chips)
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I wonder if Mercedes-Benz of Vancouver is hiring? I hear there's some great "Montana" up there.
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This admin. is the scariest I have ever known in my lifetime in america. Free thinking people fear what the control freaks in DC will come up with next. There are many similarities between Bushco and Nazi germany. Although this is an extreme comparison in all fairness.
If Karl Rove just got man of the year by Time I think I am going to puke. I will also never subscribe or buy that rag again. The republicans are just too extreme. They have no respective conscience and will stop at nothing to get what they want. They say one thing and do another. The real, unspun facts do not support them. I just hope some of the american people see through this. There are many that do not. Foreigners see through this because they do not have the daily dose of propaganda by our media. Really makes you wonder how inept the american public might be. I guess we will find out. It is not looking pretty. Seems that americans live in fear of everything thanks to sensationalized news networks. The media is corrupted. The fleecing of america will continue until the media can find a way to represent the everyman instead of the 1% with bucks. It is that simple. Wonder how long the current admin can fool the american people into believing the recession we are in is due to an little terrorist attack? I bet they milk this fear for all it is worth.
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Hey! Quit sniffin' the spice!
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In any case, with the Democrats weakened and with Republicans controlling all branches of the federal government, I do think it's an unsettling time. Joe B. |
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Good responses, both positive and negative. But note two things. I said I feared that I was seeing SIMILARITIES to Germany in the mid 30's, and did not say that I saw an exact parallel ---- just close enough to worry me.
Some respondents mistakenly have assumed that I am a dyed in the wool Democrat and in line with everything that party says. This is not the case. In fact, in my voting years since 1964, I think I've voted for more Republicans than Democrats for President. But none like this administration. Not even close. On the gun issue, this is one place where I do not see these similarities. Neither party took any action to extend the Assault Weapon ban, so it expired, meaning that our abilities to own guns have actually expanded recently. While I am politically neutral on gun restriction, this is one of the few areas where I do not see a developing similarity to Nazi Germany. Thanks, Richard |
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As I mentioned before, most of the "Nazi Gun Control" stuff is myth. The Nazis took guns away from their political opponents, and let those who supported Nazism continue to have them. As the war loomed closer to Germany, they passed out weapons like candy at a picnic. A totalitarian government has nothing to fear from an armed citizenry if they have broad support. Look at Saddam's government - we think his people lived under some slave-yoke, when the real fact is anyone could buy an AK47 in downtown Baghdad for $5, and when he held rallies, the big danger was getting killed by a stray bullet fired by one of his supporters as they fired into the air while he spoke. In America, for God knows what reason, the right wing is armed, and the left wing isn't, so instead of not having a parallel to Germany, you in fact have one that is exactly parallel. The supporters of the One Party State are armed, while the "Jew" aka "Liberals" are not.
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I tend to agree that there is no parallel on the issue of gun control. But another issue on which I see a BIG parallel with Nazi Germany is the intertwining of religion and government. Both then and there and here and now, the national leader has established a certian form of religion to which one must adhere to be in the "in crowd." And the national leader here and now is working hard to make himself a sort of a "leader" within that sort of religion. There are differences, sure. Adolf Hitler did not select from one of the existing types of religion and interject himself into that, as our President seems to be doing. As we all know, Hitler established a form of "worship of nation", on whose side God was of course said to be on, and Hitler set himself up directly as the leader of that "religion". But to go as far as Bush seems to be going in openly intertwining religion and government in what is supposed to be a Constitutionally secular nation is too close a parallel for my comfort. How about you?
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Gott Mit Uns
Oh, your on the right track, Apocalyptic TV Religion in this country is very new, and is very entwined with uber-patriotism and a desire for a One Party State. It is a new state religion, guys like Roy Moore, the "Ten Commandments Judge", Dobson, Falwell, Robertson are all trying to see to it. Bush uses religion the same way Hitler did, in implying God is ok with our invasions and atrocities against unarmed civilian populations. Like I said, these guys are reading a formula out of Goebbel's book. I heard Dobson is pushing Bush to nominate the "Ten Commandments Judge" for the Supreme Court. Don't be surprised.
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- Julius Striecher I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. -Adolf Hitler. "God told me to strike at Al Qa'ida and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did. With the might of God on our side we will triumph," -George Bush |
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Did God tell George W. Bush to strike at Al-Qaeda and Iraq? God only knows. Did Bush SAY that God told him to strike? We don't know yet, for sure. Your penchant to believe the worst of George Bush, and the best of a translation of a translation by Mahmood Abbas, speaks volumes. Clearly, you're hardly someone to rely on as an objective distributor of facts. |
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What are we supposed to do? Should we wage war on terrorism? Does your favorite team sometimes play only defence? I bet they lose if they do. Was it all about the oil? I believe that is most likely. Ben Franklin once asked a riddle. If there are five apples and you take away three, how many apples do you have? His answer was three. Those that you took away. Taking away is what this country was founded on. It is how we became a nation. I am perplexed by some Americans response to taking Iraq to stabilize the oil fields. I am also supprised by the particular group of Americans who are displeased by our controling Iraq's oil. If the price of crude rises significantly the cost of everything goes up with it. Rich folks don't care if gas is ten dollars a gallon. They might piss and moan but they control their money. The poorest suffer the most when prices are inflated. I am refering to those who buy gas, food, pay rent, buy clothes for themselves and family and have nothing left over. When inflation hits hard they are hit the hardest. Ask Jimmy Carter. While you are talking to him thank him for the 22% interest rate he left us with. The fate of the world's oil supply is related to our national security. If God talks to Bush and Bush has ear to listen maybe He did tell Bush to invade Iraq. Do we now propose to get between an american and his god? If Bush's job is to provide for the common defence promote the general wellfare and secure this country, I would think he did the right thing. He has a responsibility to our economic security too. Dan Last edited by Dan Howard; 11-18-2004 at 07:29 PM. Reason: spelling |
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Hey Dan Howard...
Gas is at a record high. Iraq more unstable than before. America is now hated across the globe. And you think god is really talking to W? If he is he sure doesn't like us or W very much.
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