Where's the outrage? - Page 15 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

spdrun · #**211** 11-24-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Shoes alone point to their presence in the top 5%.

A working man does not buy Bean boots or Sperry Topsiders for their kids.

How the hell do you know who bought their shoes for them?

PaulC · #**212** 11-24-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

It isn't. Not because the tactic was a failure but the people howled and the university caved in and tossed the cops under the bus. Dad punishes you and you appeal to Grandpa who pushes for Dad to rescind the punishment. You can't blame the punishment for failing to teach you a lesson.

The crime always fits the punishment?

PaulC · #**213** 11-24-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Shoes alone point to their presence in the top 5%.

A working man does not buy Bean boots or Sperry Topsiders for their kids.

Those shoes are actually cheap knock-offs.

spdrun · #**214** 11-24-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

It isn't. Not because the tactic was a failure but the people howled and the university caved in and tossed the cops under the bus.

If only they had done it literally.

aklim · #**215** 11-24-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulC

I'm not quite accepting the camping analogy, as clearly it was a protest, not an attempt to pitch a tent and toast marshmallows. If they were left to their own devices, how long would they have sat upon that sidewalk? Until dinnertime? Until commencement of their next class? What would have been wiser from the university's perspective: to be patient for awhile and let this situation fizzle out, or to have some fatarse strut around with a can of pepper spray while his actions were being recorded by approximately 50 smartphone cams?

Do you think that the police would have handled this situation differently if they forsaw the fallout from this debacle? Do you believe that the police have zero discretion as to how and when to apply the law under these circumstances?

What part of that don't you accept? It wasn't simply that they were protesting. IF that was the case, you would be right. You can use the camping example or the one about the employee chaining himself to a desk till he gets a raise or the abortion protester blocking the path to the clinic. You can even use a hostage situation if you want. Giving in only sets you up for the next time and there might even be an increase of problems.

Sure they would. They'd have called in sick and let someone else get fired.

I don't agree with the grand idea that they have the right to do as they please because they feel disenfranchised. Tim McVeigh also felt that way. Where and how do you draw the line? I felt that the speed limit was too low so when pulled over, I told the cop to stick it up his ass and I get into trouble. Would you feel sorry for me? I wouldn't.

If you don't like something, feel free to dissent. Do keep in mind that your right to wave your fist stops at my nose. They failed to care. When told to move, they refused. Sorry but I can't feel sorry for what happens.

Solid Snake · #**216** 11-24-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

How the hell do you know who bought their shoes for them?

They go to a UC School. Those hipsters wouldn't be caught dead without em. Whether they bought them or their parents bought them is irrelevant. Bleeding hearts is all they are.

aklim · #**217** 11-24-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulC

The crime always fits the punishment?

Not always but you can appeal. I got busted for 55 in a 25. I can appeal the decision. Same thing.

IF they felt they have a right to camp there, appeal it later. Same with lying down in the middle of the road. When pulled over, I don't argue with the cop. Sure you can try plead with him but you don't refuse to cooperate.

Honus · #**218** 11-24-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Desperately seeking their Kent state moment.

Is that supposed to be funny?

Da Nag · #**219** 11-24-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

It isn't. Not because the tactic was a failure but the people howled and the university caved in and tossed the cops under the bus. Dad punishes you and you appeal to Grandpa who pushes for Dad to rescind the punishment. You can't blame the punishment for failing to teach you a lesson.

Suppose you're a cat, and a dog chases you up a tree. You think you have two choices - stay in the tree until the dog leaves, or climb down and take your chances.

Problem is, there's also a squirrel in the tree - so you actually have three choices. Chase the squirrel out of the tree, then escape while the dog chases the squirrel.

It's just like the cops at UC Davis, only there's a whole bunch of squirrels, and they all have smartphones. There's also some fat lady selling lemonade for $8/glass, but that's not important right now.

Understand? No? Good - we're even.

PaulC · #**220** 11-24-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

What part of that don't you accept? It wasn't simply that they were protesting. IF that was the case, you would be right. You can use the camping example or the one about the employee chaining himself to a desk till he gets a raise or the abortion protester blocking the path to the clinic. You can even use a hostage situation if you want. Giving in only sets you up for the next time and there might even be an increase of problems.

Sure they would. They'd have called in sick and let someone else get fired.

I don't agree with the grand idea that they have the right to do as they please because they feel disenfranchised. Tim McVeigh also felt that way. Where and how do you draw the line? I felt that the speed limit was too low so when pulled over, I told the cop to stick it up his ass and I get into trouble. Would you feel sorry for me? I wouldn't.

If you don't like something, feel free to dissent. Do keep in mind that your right to wave your fist stops at my nose. They failed to care. When told to move, they refused. Sorry but I can't feel sorry for what happens.

No reason to feel sorry, for there are no sympathetic characters in this matter.

spdrun · #**221** 11-24-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

They go to a UC School. Those hipsters wouldn't be caught dead without em. Whether they bought them or their parents bought them is irrelevant. Bleeding hearts is all they are.

Have you met every student at a UC school? We're not talking about University of Connecticut here. Opinionated much?

PaulC · #**222** 11-24-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

They go to a UC School. Those hipsters wouldn't be caught dead without em. Whether they bought them or their parents bought them is irrelevant. Bleeding hearts is all they are.

And their selection of shoes is a dead giveaway to their political sympathies. In my closet, I have a pair of Allen Edmonds Park Avenues sharing space with a pair of Topsiders. One can only conclude that I must be particularly tormented on Election Day.

Solid Snake · #**223** 11-24-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

Have you met every student at a UC school? We're not talking about University of Connecticut here. Opinionated much?

Then enlighten me as to the direction most college campuses lean on the political spectrum. Then, sharpen the issue on UC schools and their political stances.

What I can say is I've never seen anyone in a CT Orchard or farm rocking Topsiders.

Where I have seen them however are at the Pequot Yacht Club and Greens Farms Academy. Of course, you can always prove me wrong.

tbomachines · #**224** 11-24-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Then enlighten me as to the direction most college campuses lean on the political spectrum. Then, sharpen the issue on UC schools and their political stances.

What I can say is I've never seen anyone in a CT Orchard or farm rocking Topsiders.

Where I have seen them however are at the Pequot Yacht Club and Greens Farms Academy. Of course, you can always prove me wrong.

Mine for example was 55-60% republican, but I'll be the first to say it could be considered unrepresentative

spdrun · #**225** 11-24-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Then enlighten me as to the direction most college campuses lean on the political spectrum. Then, sharpen the issue on UC schools and their political stances.

What I can say is I've never seen anyone in a CT Orchard or farm rocking Topsiders.

Where I have seen them however are at the Pequot Yacht Club and Greens Farms Academy. Of course, you can always prove me wrong.

Exactly -- Topsiders are more preppy than hipster. Hipster would be more likely to rock Converse AllStars or fair trade knockoffs thereof. Anyway, what a farmer wears around the farm has little to do with what they wear "off the job." Just like an construction worker wouldn't wear work boots when going out to dinner.