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Old 11-04-2012, 01:50 AM
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I am IT, and do occasional sales recommendations/analysis. I think the original issue here was that no, a 7+ year old PC is not going to handle things as well as a new one. Its always amazing how people will fight, battle and cling to their ancient computers, but when they finally give in and upgrade, the response is virtually always very positive. The cost of a computer is minuscule compared to what most people spend on much less important things. A $400 PC averaged out over 5+ years is not even $7 a month. Thats about the same as what people pay for insurance on their PHONE....which probably cost more than their computer!
And a free browser change doesn't cost $7/mo, and the machine now serves the OP's needs.

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Old 11-04-2012, 09:26 AM
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And a free browser change doesn't cost $7/mo, and the machine now serves the OP's needs.
The technology salesman drives a 29 year old diesel powered vehicle with no airbags, no computer control, no ABS, massive exhaust emissions, and tiny 14 inch tires.

He then makes the argument that IT should be replaced every 2-3 years because that's the industry that he works within.

You can't be more of a hypocrite.
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:51 PM
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Obsolete computing stuff has its uses.
I believe they use a Motorola 8600 chip aka 286 to control scud missiles. Not some wizz bang core 6 color graphics thing.
All a matter of appropriateness. Like BC, I still use XP at home ~ bomb proof & simple !
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:44 PM
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I think Chrome's memory usage on your machine Brian, might be linked to a plug in on Chrome.

I've had this install running since 4/16/2011

My normal usage is about ~400mb of ram. This machine has 6GB total.

It really all depends on what you're doing with the browser. If you've got a lot of compute intensive stuff plugged in..then it'll eat more resources. I also run Ad Block Plus, this blocks a bunch of flash based ads, that might help you in your situation. I bet those ads chew up gobs of memory. Maybe not a lot on one page, but with 10 tabs..

Put this in your address bar and you'll see which plugins are using the ram:

chrome://memory-redirect/
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:48 PM
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The technology salesman drives a 29 year old diesel powered vehicle with no airbags, no computer control, no ABS, massive exhaust emissions, and tiny 14 inch tires.

He then makes the argument that IT should be replaced every 2-3 years because that's the industry that he works within.

You can't be more of a hypocrite.
It everyone had our mentality about keeping and driving our 29 year old cars I think we would have some big problems.

Today's economy is driven by disposable everything and short product life cycles.

Even MB..their car life cycle was about 10 years back in the 123/126 era right? Isn't it 5 now?
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It everyone had our mentality about keeping and driving our 29 year old cars I think we would have some big problems.

Today's economy is driven by disposable everything and short product life cycles.

Even MB..their car life cycle was about 10 years back in the 123/126 era right? Isn't it 5 now?
F--k the economy! If things slowed down a bit, the world would adjust.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:54 PM
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F--k the economy! If things slowed down a bit, the world would adjust.
If everything slowed down, I think it would cascade down hill pretty fast.

Generally speaking

-People holding on to things longer
-No need to build so many new things so fast and in high quantities as there is low demand.
-Low Demand = Companies cut production back
-Low Production = Less workers in both manufacturing and to perhaps a lesser extent R&D
-Higher unemployment numbers

This is basically the same argument that can be applied to when a new technology is employed.. i.e robots for automotive manufacturing, automated steel mills in the steel industry..etc.
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Maybe if people didn't feel the need to spin their wheels and purchase the latest imported geewgaw every year or two, then they'd have time for things like education. And family. What f**king good does income do Americans when they spend 45+ hr per week at work, and another 10 or 15 commuting?

Not to mention that the excess labor can be better utilized in other ways. We have a whole economy to convert from fossil fuels to electric/hydrogen/renewables/nuclear in the next 20-30 years if we want mankind to survive. Time to start doing it rather than sitting with our thumbs up our anuses.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:05 PM
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Market? Who need a market? We just need government edicts and everything will work just fine.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:15 PM
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Maybe if people didn't feel the need to spin their wheels and purchase the latest imported geewgaw every year or two, then they'd have time for things like education. And family. What f**king good does income do Americans when they spend 45+ hr per week at work, and another 10 or 15 commuting?

Not to mention that the excess labor can be better utilized in other ways. We have a whole economy to convert from fossil fuels to electric/hydrogen/renewables/nuclear in the next 20-30 years if we want mankind to survive. Time to start doing it rather than sitting with our thumbs up our anuses.
This is all very true. The sad thing is that a good amount of American need to work that 45+ or beyond per week because they need that money to support their families. Or are working in understaffed environments or are underpaid. I am all for shorter work weeks and commutes.

I am also all for conversion from fossil fuels to alternative superior forms.
However I feel as if we'll get some half-baked half-assed bastard child of a solution. I mean, they gave us that E85/ethanol crap. We make that from food corn right? And its worse than gas?
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:33 PM
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Some 30 years ago--as the original PC was being released. I wrote a program in BASIC that did critical path scheduling for about 30 houses under construction at any one time on a C-64. It took almost all night to run and print the critical path diagrams.
We have become rather wasteful of memory since then.
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I dont think the old PC was the problem, i can run chrome on my POS netbook and it works fine... in fact performs better than firefox, IE, or opera, which used to be my fave. Come to think of it might have 4gb of ram in there though.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:17 PM
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I use FF & Safari. They work.

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Old 11-04-2012, 10:24 PM
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Chrome works awesome on my MacBook, actually works quite a bit better than on my PC.


Chrome isn't Google.

Apple and Google are not playing well together.
I wouldn't count on Apple doing anything from this point forward to assist their users in accessing and benefiting from Google products.
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Chrome isn't Google.

Apple and Google are not playing well together.
I wouldn't count on Apple doing anything from this point forward to assist their users in accessing and benefiting from Google products.
Unless they lock down OS X entirely (not gonna happen in next year or two - too many custom/specialty desktop apps out there), how exactly will they prevent Google software from running?

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