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Old 10-06-2012, 07:00 PM
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Gen 2 kits started

I took my work truck to the laser cutter yesterday and picked up all the parts for the Gen 2 bracket kits:


I got started on the welding:


I got 3 of the 25 plates welded:


I also went to Ecology today (1/2 off sale) and got 4 Sanden rear port back plates. After they were cleaned up:


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Old 10-18-2012, 01:50 AM
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Gen 2 bracket testing

I got the bracket and compressor mounted on my spare engine:

Belt on and adjusted tight:

Photo of tension adjuster:

I mounted the compressor and bracket on my 240, and will test it there. There seems to be plenty of room between the compressor and frame. I will post photos soon...Rich
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This is exciting! It looks like the second generation is simpler than the first, which I like. I was really dreading having to fabricate a bracket. I am glad you are doing the work for me. I hope to get one once I'm caught up on my finances.
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:26 PM
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CAD parts picked up today

I picked up the parts from plating today:

I need to paint the 3 plates I have welded, and then package the 3 kits I have now. I hope to get some time to weld some more plates this weekend. I have 18 of the 24 kits spokenfor so far on this thread:
Gen 2 Sanden/617 kit- Want list started
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:40 PM
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Everyone that has purchased a kit please read!

Although the testing of the Gen 1 bracket on my SD has been successful and without issues, the Gen 2 bracket has had some issues that I need those of you that have one to be aware of. A while back, I noticed some rattling from the engine bay and found a broken bolt on the top mounting tab of the compressor. I replaced it, and a few weeks later, the nut was gone. Just yesterday I was showing someone the bracket, and I noticed that the nut on the long bolt (12mm) was gone. I mistakenly have been using/providing nylon locking nuts with the kit, but have found that they are backing out and/or breaking (most likely because of heat). I am going to supply all metal lock nuts with the kits from now on. If you have a kit and have not installed it yet, I suggest you (1) PM me your address and I will send you replacements, or (2) go to your local fastener supplier and purchase them. For the Gen 1 kit you will need 4- 3/8 24 all metal lock nuts, and the Gen 2 takes 8- 3/8 all metal lock nuts, and one M12 lock nut. Actually, the only place the Gen 2 really needs them is on the long bolt (M12), and the two compressor to plate bolts. If you would like me to send you the nuts, please send me a private message with your address and which bracket you have, and I would be happy to send them. If you choose to just buy them, I am ok with that as well. Even though you may not have the nut problems I have been having, it is a good idea to replace them anyway. Thanks in advance for your understanding, Rich
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:15 PM
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Will this sanden 508 work for my first gen kit on my 82 300TD?
If not what tips in suitable compressors do you have Rollguy?
Thanks!
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I'm sorry if this question has already been addressed but.........
Is there a provision to secure the oil cooler lines that were secured on the original AC bracket?
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:56 PM
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I'm sorry if this question has already been addressed but.........
Is there a provision to secure the oil cooler lines that were secured on the original AC bracket?
An oil cooler line relocation bracket is provided in the kit...Rich
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:57 PM
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Will this sanden 508 work for my first gen kit on my 82 300TD?
If not what tips in suitable compressors do you have Rollguy?
Thanks!
PM'd you, but for everyone else, yes it will work. Although the rear port head is better (more room for the hoses), I have only used compressors with the top exiting ports...Rich
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I'm sorry if this question has already been addressed but.........
Is there a provision to secure the oil cooler lines that were secured on the original AC bracket?
Look at post #2.

617 Sanden style A/C Compressor Mounting Kit For Sale + Installation Instructions

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Old 04-03-2013, 10:41 AM
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Can the existing hoses be used with this Sanden conversion or must new
ones be made?
I searched for a Sanden 508 on a couple A/C sites, but it seems they want
an application. Does anyone know what cars that compressor came on, to
make searching for a price a bit easier?
Ebay has the 508, but I really don't
trust ebay that much.
If I can re-use the hoses and I can find a new compressor for around 150.00 you can put me down for a kit when they come out.
I'm trying to buy a Sanden 508 locally but it's not easy! I'd rather not have one shipped to me if I can help it. What cars/years did the 508 come on? Parts houses and auto supply places want car models not a/c models... thanks!
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:16 AM
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I'm trying to buy a Sanden 508 locally but it's not easy! I'd rather not have one shipped to me if I can help it. What cars/years did the 508 come on? Parts houses and auto supply places want car models not a/c models... thanks!

Likewise, I'm trying to purchase a Sanden SD7H15SH with a K type head on the back......

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Old 04-03-2013, 12:56 PM
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List of some vehicles that use the Sanden

This list was originally posted by Mach4 in one of the other Sanden AC Bracket threads.

Installing a Sanden compressor on a 617- looking at all options


Here is a list that I was working off of when I was combing the junk yards for a Sanden compressor (and probably will be again). I printed the list and used in the yard as a guide. It would be nice if there was a way to do some cursory tests on a compressor in the yard. Are there any indicators that could be used to increase the odds of getting a good one?
**** Sanden (SD series) Compressor Listing ****

ALFA ROMEO, Milano, 82, Sanden SD508
ALFA ROMEO, Spider, 88-82, Sanden SD508
DODGE, Dakota, 98-94, Sanden SD7H15
DODGE, Dakota, 93-91, Sanden SDB709
DODGE, Monaco, 92-90, Sanden SD709
DODGE, Pickups (Fullsize), 00-92, Sanden SD7H15
DODGE, Pickups (Fullsize), Sanden SD709
EAGLE, Medallion, 89-88, Sanden SD709
EAGLE, Premier, 92-89, Sanden SD709
FORD, Bronco (Dealer Air), 93-88, Sanden SD709
FORD, Bronco II (Dealer Air), 90, Sanden SD709
FORD, E Series Van (Dealer Air), 93-90, Sanden SD709
FORD, E Series Van (Dealer Air), 91-88, Sanden SD508
FORD, Escort, EXP (Dealer Air), 90-88, Sanden SD709
FORD, Escort, EXP (Dealer Air), 87-86, Sanden SD508
FORD, F Series Pickup F150-F350 (Dealer Air), 93-90, Sanden SD709
FORD, F Series Pickup F150-F350 (Dealer Air), 89-88, Sanden SD508
FORD, Mustang (Dealer Air), 93-88, Sanden SD709
FORD, Ranger (Dealer Air), 92-88, Sanden SD709
FORD, Ranger (Dealer Air), 89-88, Sanden SD508
FORD, Tempo (Dealer Air), 91-88, Sanden SD709
FORD, Tempo (Dealer Air), 87-86, Sanden SD508
GEO, Metro, 00-94, Sanden SD7B10
GEO, Tracker (Factory Air), 98-95, Sanden SD7B10
GEO, Tracker (Aftermarket Air), 96-89, Sanden SD505
HYUNDAI, Excel, 94-86, Sanden SD709
HYUNDAI, Scoupe, 92-91, Sanden SD709
JAGUAR, XJ6 (Vanden Plas), 96-93, Sanden SD7H15
JAGUAR, XJ6 (Vanden Plas), 92-88, Sanden SD709
JAGUAR, XJ6 (Vanden Plas), 92-88, Sanden SD510
JAGUAR, XJ12, 94-93, Sanden SD7H15
JAGUAR, XJ12, 92-88, Sanden SD709
JAGUAR, XJ12, 92-88, Sanden SD510
JAGUAR, XJS, 96-93, Sanden SD7H15
JAGUAR, XJS, 92-88, Sanden SD709
JAGUAR, XJS, 92-88, Sanden SD510
JAGUAR, XJR, 96-93, Sanden SD7H15
JEEP, Cherokee, 98-94, Sanden SD7H15
JEEP, Cherokee, 93-91, Sanden SD709
JEEP, Cherokee, 90-81, Sanden SD508
JEEP, Comanche, 92-91, Sanden SD709
JEEP, Comanche, 90-86, Sanden SD508
JEEP, Grand Wagoneer, 86-84, Sanden SD508
JEEP, Wagoneer, 96, Sanden SD709
JEEP, Wagoneer, 90-81, Sanden SD508
JEEP, Wrangler, 97, Sanden SD7H15
JEEP, Wrangler, 92, Sanden SD709
JEEP, Wrangler, 90-87, Sanden SD508
LANDROVER, Range Rover, 95-87, Sanden SD709
MAZDA, 626/MX-6, 00-97, Sanden SD709
MAZDA, 626/MX-6, 85-79, Sanden SD508
MAZDA, B1600-B4000 Pickup, 93-86, Sanden SD708
MAZDA, B1600-B4000 Pickup, 89-86, Sanden SD508
MAZDA, B1600-B4000 Pickup, 84-82, Sanden SD575
MAZDA, B1600-B4000 Pickup, 81-76, Sanden SD508
MAZDA, Cosmo, 78-76, Sanden SD508
MAZDA, GLC, 85-84, Sanden SD575
MAZDA, GLC, 83-77, Sanden SD508
MAZDA, RX3/RX7, 91-86, Sanden SD708
MAZDA, RX3/RX7, 85-82, Sanden SD575
MAZDA, RX3/RX7, 81-76, Sanden SD508
MERCURY, LN7/Lynx (Dealer Air), 87-86, Sanden SD508
MERCURY, Topaz (Dealer Air), 91-88, Sanden SD709
MERCURY, Topaz (fACTORY Air), 87-86, Sanden SD508
MERCURY, Tracer (Dealer Air), 89-87, Sanden SD508
MITSUBISHI, Precis, 93-90, Sanden SD709
PEUGEOT, 405, 91-89, Sanden SD709
PEUGEOT, 504, 83-80, Sanden SD510
PEUGEOT, 504, 83-80, Sanden SD508
PEUGEOT, 505, 87-80, Sanden SD510
PEUGEOT, 505, 87-80, Sanden SD508
PEUGEOT, 604, 84-80, Sanden SD510
PEUGEOT, 604, 84-80, Sanden SD508
RENAULT, 18i, 83-81, Sanden SD508
RENAULT, Alliance, 87-83, Sanden SD508
RENAULT, Encore, 86-84, Sanden SD508
RENAULT, Fuego, 85-82, Sanden SD508
RENAULT, GTA, 87, Sanden SD508
RENAULT, LeCar, 83-81, Sanden SD508
RENAULT, Medallion, 90-88, Sanden SD709
RENAULT, Sportswagon, 86-84, Sanden SD508
SAAB, 900 Series, 87-86, Sanden SD508
SAAB, 900 Series, 85-79, Sanden SD510
SAAB, 9000 Series, 97-86, Sanden SD709
SUBARU, Brat/Coupe/Hardtop/Hatchback/Sedan, 82-81, Sanden SD508
SUZUKI, Swift, 96-94, Sanden SD7B10
VOLKSWAGEN, Beetle, 01-98, Sanden SD7V16
VOLKSWAGEN, Cabriolet, 92-85, Sanden SD508
VOLKSWAGEN, Corrado, 92, Sanden SD709
VOLKSWAGEN, Corrado, 92, Sanden SD7V10
VOLKSWAGEN, Corrado, 91-90, Sanden SD709
VOLKSWAGEN, Dasher, 81-76, Sanden SD508
VOLKSWAGEN, Eurovan, 95-92, Sanden SD7H15
VOLKSWAGEN, Golf/GTI, 92-83, Sanden SD508
VOLKSWAGEN, Jetta, 00-93, Sanden SD7V16
VOLKSWAGEN, Jetta, 92-81, Sanden SD508
VOLKSWAGEN, Passat, 97-92, Sanden SD7V16
VOLKSWAGEN, Passat, 92-90, Sanden SD709
VOLKSWAGEN, Pickup, 83-80, Sanden SD508
VOLKSWAGEN, Scirocco, 89-95, Sanden SD508
VOLKSWAGEN, Vanagan, 91-87, Sanden SD709
VOLKSWAGEN, Vanagan, 87-84, Sanden SD510
VOLKSWAGEN, Vanagan, 86-80, Sanden SD508
VOLVO, 960 Series, 95-93, Sanden SD7H15
VOLVO, 960 Series, 92, Sanden SD709
This should not be seen as a definitive list, but rather a guide to whether it makes sense to pop a hood to look.

Hope this helps

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1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

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Old 04-03-2013, 01:14 PM
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Sanden is primarily an aftermarket supplier of compressors. As such, they are not generally associated with a particular manufacturer. That is not to say that they were not used in that application, as they were.

This may be helpful in understanding the Sanden nomenclature



R-12 Sanden A/C compressors use a defined numbering system and the R12 Sanden A/C compressors use "SD" to signify the Sanden name. Then the units have a 3 digit code such as 709 for the R-12 Sanden A/C compressors.
The Sanden compressors that are designated for the R-134 refrigerant use a different code. For example, SD7H15HD can be broken down into its parts. The SD stands for Sanden; the 7 is the number of cylinders in the compressor; H stands for the port location (H if it is on the head and B if it is on the block) the 15 is the displacement in cubic centimeters. The HD stands for heavy duty and there can also be SHD for sealed heavy duty clutch.

You can pretty much build your own model number based on what you need for your application.

Now for those that are interested in junk yard diving for their compressor, here is a list of places to start...

EDIT: Removed redundant list of possible vehicles to search for, because Charlie responded while I was typing

You might be able to take this list to a local parts house and see what comes up. Open the box, and look at the Sanden part number to verify if you've got what you need.
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