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Old 03-06-2015, 09:40 PM
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I have some practical experience in the subject matter.Back in 2003 when I graduated BMW S.T.E.P., I weighed at least 235-240lbs. I'm a pretty big guy though, about 6' tall back then but getting rather portly and not very muscular. I maintained that weight for a couple years and finally got sick and tired of myself. I had never been a real healthy eater nor much for exercise but my careers have been pretty physical.

So I had heard good praise about the Release Weight Loss supp's sold by GNC and decided to try it out. There was like 4 bottles of different pills and a shake powder. It was nearly $300 for a 1-1/2mo supply For what it cost, I was bound and determined to get my moneys worth! My diet changed in a big way, small portions, down to minimal carbs, everything low-fat/low-cal/low sodium, all that good stuff. I just about cut out all red meat, ate lots of chicken & turkey, basically no sweets and junk foods. No soda pop and sweet drinks which is fine, I'm quite happy with water. I ate more fruits but had never been a veggie person so I had to find alternatives. The change in diet was hard at first but after a while, I began to feel really guilty about eating anything unhealthy which was helpful and a moral booster for doing good. I physically felt a lot better too. All that + Release boosted my energy too.

Along with that I started exercising some. Nothing spectacular nor a large amount of. I live out in the country and have a decent size yard, so in the evenings when it was cool out, I would run laps, sprints, do push-ups, all the kinds of things we did in PE as a kid.

In approximately 3 months from the start of the diet at 235lbs I was down to a surprising 165lbs I couldn't hardly believe I had lost 70lbs! I felt and looked worlds better!

The stickler is, I can no longer find Release, I believe it may have been an Ephedra product. The parent company still exists, NDS but they have entirely different products now. Unfortunatly I became a part of the statistics and gained weight back only due to my own stupidity. I have picked up cycling a few years ago and really bulked up my muscles so I picked up weight there but a lot more needs to come off again, I need a comeback tour!

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Old 03-06-2015, 09:44 PM
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Honestly, it sounds to me like your weight loss could just as easily have been due to your dietary changes and fitness routine as opposed to the supplement...
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:22 PM
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Honestly, it sounds to me like your weight loss could just as easily have been due to your dietary changes and fitness routine as opposed to the supplement...
It may very well could have but with 100% certainty I know the Release had an effect me in some ways. But again could have been placebo effect. Loosing 70lbs in about 3mo was pretty drastic and I really didn't exercise that hard! As compared to a few years ago, I again change my diet for the better and since I had an hour lunch break, I would go on about a 5 mile fast paced bike ride almost every day and then about 3 days of the week I would ride another 8-10 miles that same evening and it was a struggle to loose 15lbs as compared to my previous experience. It was much more vigorous exercise that previous. Some of my riding was pretty rigorous off-road mountain biking that really used your whole body to ride. The first time on said trail took me 2hrs to go 1.5 miles. Within a couple months it was 45min but still punishing!
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You were likely adding muscle weight whilst losing fat.

Secondly, biking only uses about 40% of the energy per mile of walking or jogging. Yeah, you were going up hills, but you were likely also resting going down.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:41 PM
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You were likely adding muscle weight whilst losing fat.

Secondly, biking only uses about 40% of the energy per mile of walking or jogging. Yeah, you were going up hills, but you were likely also resting going down.
All true! I know cycling doesn't = running but I cycled much, much further/more than any running/jogging I did. Didn't mean to hijack your thread BTW
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All true! I know cycling doesn't = running but I cycled much, much further/more than any running/jogging I did. Didn't mean to hijack your thread BTW
Dude, no offense taken!
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Old 03-07-2015, 02:36 AM
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Cocaine can help boost the metabolism
More like replaces the urge to eat.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:51 PM
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After about 2 months of doing the same exercise (the same walk, distance/same heart rate/pace etc) your body adapts and the weight will plateau or increase again. One reason my mailman is obese.

You have to mix it up, increase distance or pick up the pace.

Adding muscle increases weight but your are more efficient at burning calories.

I'm not sure using supplements are a good idea. Goals can be attained by hard work and the right attitude. I messed with Ephedra years ago. Not good. No wonder they banned it. Tolerance builds up in a matter of a few weeks, need to use more $$. Then you come off it and crash... ugh.
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Old 03-07-2015, 03:02 PM
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After about 2 months of doing the same exercise (the same walk, distance/same heart rate/pace etc) your body adapts and the weight will plateau or increase again. One reason my mailman is obese.

You have to mix it up, increase distance or pick up the pace.

Adding muscle increases weight but your are more efficient at burning calories.

I'm not sure using supplements are a good idea. Goals can be attained by hard work and the right attitude. I messed with Ephedra years ago. Not good. No wonder they banned it. Tolerance builds up in a matter of a few weeks, need to use more $$. Then you come off it and crash... ugh.
That all sounds about right! Although my 1st successful diet stayed pretty routine and I still lost a ton. I think minus the supplements are the better choice. I honestly don't know if the Release product I took was Ephedra or not, I scoured the internet a couple times trying to find out but no luck. I never felt goofy or anything scary but had lots of energy. One might argue it could be caffeine or something but i'm pretty non-reactive to common stimulants. Kinda leads me to think it was Ephedra...
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Old 03-07-2015, 06:04 PM
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That all sounds about right! Although my 1st successful diet stayed pretty routine and I still lost a ton. I think minus the supplements are the better choice. I honestly don't know if the Release product I took was Ephedra or not, I scoured the internet a couple times trying to find out but no luck. I never felt goofy or anything scary but had lots of energy. One might argue it could be caffeine or something but i'm pretty non-reactive to common stimulants. Kinda leads me to think it was Ephedra...
Ephedra-based supplements were banned in 2004, if that helps. I was using the stuff in about 2001. I remember crashing and getting the worst headaches and terrible mood swings.
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Ephedra-based supplements were banned in 2004, if that helps. I was using the stuff in about 2001. I remember crashing and getting the worst headaches and terrible mood swings.
The pure herb (Ma Huang) isn't illegal to possess, so long as it's not for human consumption as a nutritional supplement and is used in traditional Chinese medicine. (wink-wink)

If one wants to find it, they can, and there's no legal risk to buying it.
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After about 2 months of doing the same exercise (the same walk, distance/same heart rate/pace etc) your body adapts and the weight will plateau or increase again. One reason my mailman is obese.

You have to mix it up, increase distance or pick up the pace.

Adding muscle increases weight but your are more efficient at burning calories.

I'm not sure using supplements are a good idea. Goals can be attained by hard work and the right attitude. I messed with Ephedra years ago. Not good. No wonder they banned it. Tolerance builds up in a matter of a few weeks, need to use more $$. Then you come off it and crash... ugh.
True, with the exception of your mailman's scenario. His walking does two things; makes him eat more of the same cRappy diet, and keeps the weight on him. He could double his walking and still be a fat***. Because his eating would match the outgo.

Rarely, do ppl @ the health club working out (some like mad......) ever change their body-mass. They eat their way to keeping the same mass of body fat.
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Walking is a great way to lose weight. Not only does it help keep your weight under control, but is also great for your cardiovascular system. Keep it up. Cutting down on the carbs will help a lot too. Your body will burn carbs if they are available instead of burning fat.

That said, skid is right about appetite, but as long as you make a point of cutting down the intake along with the exercise increasing, you can melt the weight off in short order, especially a young person. Believe me, as you get older, shedding weight will become MASSIVELY more difficult. If you don't set up good habits now, you will have a really tough time later on.

At almost 66 years of age, I consider myself fortunate to be at 185 pounds and 6'1". It's partially due to developing workout habits in my younger years and partially because I'm just lucky enough to have burning metabolism.

I am EXTREMELY lucky to not have a metabolism problem, and have never been very much overweight. I have known a few people quite well that had a REAL fight with it. Both of those guys worked really hard it and still had a tough time with it. One of them was really heavy and forced himself up and down a basketball court. It was amazing to watch him do it. I really admired him for his effort, not to mention he was a good basketball player.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:39 PM
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I'm not judging the mailman, his weight is his business. Nor do I know his what his diet consists of. My point was that what appears to be an obese male who walks all day for his job.

About a year ago, I upped my cardio workouts and within a few months lost around 7 lbs. (and I am in good shape) After about 6 months, I hit a plateau. My only options now are to change diet or change workout.

I chose to join Crossfit. I attended a free intro session yesterday and the cardio aspect was intense. They change things up often, so I expect to be in the best overall shape of my life within a few months.
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My weight doesn't change a whole lot but my waistline does. My pants are kinda tight now and I want to tighten up my waist again. I know my problem - sweets. I could live on coffee and baked goods.

Life is too short to spend time and money punishing yourself in a gym. It is warming up and I'll be outside a lot more when the monsoon season is over.

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