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Old 12-19-2000, 01:47 AM
Richard Ney
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remove engine?

So you have a garage? or a "outdoorwallnoroof" garage?

You Have the springs on you MB or not?

Planning to get the engine out on a rainy day?

How you planing to remove the engine/ work inside you garage with out having a room of at list 23ft in length to retreat those irons?

Confuse...
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Old 12-19-2000, 05:28 AM
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The 280C is a 1974. It is the Standard Color...

He He. I heard that my ugly grey is some sort of "Standard Color" for Mercedes. A Color for those who don't want it painted. Does this paint have a high gloss when New? or is it kind of like white, polish forever for a medium shine.
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Old 12-19-2000, 05:30 AM
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To Donald S.

When removing the motor, are car ramps high enough to twist the eng/trans assembly through?
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Old 12-19-2000, 05:43 AM
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Richard

I hace no idea what you mean here

" How you planing to remove the engine/ work inside you garage with out having a room of at list 23ft in length to retreat those irons? "

What does "retreat the irons" mean? I am a redneck from Washington, Oklahoma. How I plan on doing the engine is unbolt the motor and trans, hook a tilting engine harness to the VERY NICE loops that are ALREADY THERE! Then lift a little, tilt a little, till it is out, then roll the whole crane into the garage. Then lift the engine stand about a 1/2 inch and bolt it on, then lower the whole thing. Then leave the AWESOME loops on the engine used to pull it. Then I'll Take off the head, probably cuss that cam chain if it is anything like my Yamaha's, and then try to knock the pistons out with a rubber mallot, then send it down to be line bored and planed on all surfaces, even the pan side. Then put it all back together with new guts, and put it back in. If you mean re-arcing the springs, I couldn't care less about that unless the car is sitting funny. I don't even know if it has a frame or not, I can't remember. Anyway, you will have to explain what you mean.

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Old 12-19-2000, 06:05 AM
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To Richard Ney

My wife says you mean just "how do I plan to pull the engine, since the car is long with the engine puller in front of it".

I do have a 1 car Garage. It measures 5m by 10m. or 15ft x 30ft. I have a driveway that is a little longer than 30ft. I have done many engines. It will not be on a rainy day. I repair cars 50% of the time, and develop software 50% of the time for http://WWW.MyTurn.com/ . I work on cars when the weather warms up in the afternoon, it is cold here, unlike Southern California, it get down to 40 here sometimes.(No I am not a weenie, in NM it gets to -10). I work on my computer in my underwear until noon or so. I would like to have a auto business full time, but I am only in Northern California for my job and my wifes job. We will move back to New Mexico after these jobs pay off (Stock options in Silicon Valley are a pretty popular tool to attract and retain professional talent) and we retire. I consider myself 1/2 retired since I retired from Lucent in July (at 37). It was a stock peak and It was time to cash out. Now we are waiting to see if Myturn.com works out. I like the chances of the company or I would already be in my Shop in New Mexico.
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Old 12-19-2000, 04:17 PM
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Leave the hood attached

280c, referrancing the Mercedes Benz Service Manual, Engine 103(this should apply to your application as well). I'm sorry I was so vague on the hole or lift height. Page 01.1101-03/15. Dimension "a" approx 30 cm. This is the height of the wheels contact surface above the ground/floor. Your drive on stands may work. Remember the rear has to be raised as well. The illustration in the Manual shows the rear of the tranny being held up by a hydraulic floor jack after the cross member and drive shaft have been removed. As you lift the engine you lower the rear of the transmission. Repeating lift, lower until you have enough height to clear the fire wall. As you can see you will need a lift chain that allow your lift point to change it's position for and aft as you lift. Before this you must unbolt the refer compressor and pull aside, remove the radiator and all the other stuff. I don't know where all of the other submitted numbers came from, but these are from the M/B Manual. Happy Trails Beep Beep from Houston.

Donald

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Old 12-19-2000, 05:15 PM
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Go Vertical

cth350, if a hood can go vertical then don't remove it. The reason for this is so you won't have to adjust the hood to fender gap which is so accurate and these body gaps are just another reason a Benz is so desireable. Happy Trails Beep Beep from Houston.

Donald
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Old 12-19-2000, 06:22 PM
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Native New Mexican

280c, I am a Native from N.M. Borne in Chama, my wife from Carlsbad. My Father moved to Albuquerque(thought I couldn't spell it, HUH)when I became high school age. During H.S. I won a scholarship to The General Motors Institute in Flint, Michican. I co-oped Cadillac Motor Car for five years. My secondary was at Purdue. I retired after 20 years with G.M. I've always been a car nut. Don't ask how I retired in Houston, very long story. Happy Trails Beep Beep from Houston.

Donald
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Old 12-19-2000, 08:35 PM
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Uh, Donald?

Donald, The car is a W114, not a W124. It's a whole different beast than what you've been describing.

-CTH
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Old 12-20-2000, 12:11 AM
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Whoops,cth350

cth350, as you read, my response said "this applies to a W124030, but it may help." Perhaps your response will be of more value. Happy Trails Beep Beep from Houston.

Donald
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My info is not worth a pitence.
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Old 12-20-2000, 01:39 AM
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On 114 the hood has to come off!

CTH350 is right on.... on the 114, the hood must come off the body to remove the engine. Even removing the grille wouldn't provide adequate clearance. I checked my 114 this afternoon just to be sure...
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Old 12-20-2000, 11:57 AM
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I just finished removing and reinstalling my engine and trans. You must remove the hood. Strongly recommend one of those gizmos that let you vary the tilt of the engine/trans as it comes out and goes back in.
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Old 12-20-2000, 10:13 PM
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Take it Off, the boys shouted

280c, after all the gobbaley gup I passed on to you. Forget it, but if you get a W124030, it will work. Sorry I waisted everyone's time. Happy Trails Beep Beep from, don't have all the answers, Houston.

Donald
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Old 12-21-2000, 01:31 AM
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Can I borrow your carburetor for a week or so?

Sounds crazy, but here is an explanation... I recently sold my '73 280 to a fellow in Grand Prarie Tx. The trouble is my carb is only slightly more useful than a brick soaked in gasoline. Therefor he is having a very difficult time getting a carhauler to haul his new toy. (they want to be ably to drive it up the ramps etc.) The 280 has been sold (I have the $) for at least 2 months now, and it is taking up space intended for my 280SE...not to mention the neighbors are seriously starting to doubt that I ever sold it.
Well, it was just a crazy thought, but I am nearing the end of cheap ideas for this fellow. (why I am trying to help him [after all I have the money, right?]? I feel bad for the guy...his wife (25 yrs old) just died on him from cancer..(she saw the car on ebay 2 weeks before she passed), and I wanted to help him out a bit...so far all I have been able to do is throw in some extra 114 parts I had laying around, nothing more.
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Old 12-21-2000, 11:39 PM
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I unfortunately have the twin Zeniths which are less useful than two bricks soaked in gasoline. You are really kind to help the guy out, wish I could help.
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