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Old 09-01-2007, 02:38 PM
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I don't mind a cleaner emission car
I really don't want to get gased while driving
its not all that good for the diver either

Rmemeber I had a open 70 TA with mufflers under the cab
it actually ran pretty clean no cat converter

I can smell this one
but it does need to be run

I can smell it standing near it

I have cardboard underneath to pinpoint any leaks
there are none...

Just have to take it as it goes
Smog is not for 2 years....

Anyway don't want to take up your time
Its Labor day weekend

I'm just goint to clean the birds cage & relax

I;llleave the number hunting for a cooler day///

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Old 09-01-2007, 02:48 PM
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thought some of the earlier names were a service station
before the somog only requirements?
How long have you been out here? The smog only test stations is a pretty new development here. The smog tests are now a "big business" (unfortunately)

Not that long ago, they were no big deal, and any corner gas station used to be able to perform them - and many did. Maybe that is what your records are showing.

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just a thought
any lead is good.

Hey what about the fan
how can I tell if something is a miss
The blade seemed to rotate wo resistance
is that bad?
It was turning at idle
so not sure how much its affecting oil temp

also there is a open metal flex tube on pass side engine
doesn;t go anywhere
You think its a smog thing?
Well, the fan should spin freely, if you turn it with your hand when the car is parked, and the engine is off.. On mine it certainly does.

It is an interesting picture, you have a good camera evidently. The radiator looks visibly in good condition but you never know about the passages inside after 24 years. There is a new thread going about Lifespan of Mercedes radiators, on Diesel Discussion, and the results are inconclusive - seems to depend on the car. Some originals last longer than yours.

If yours says Behr - made in Germany - it ccould be the original, with the unreinforced upper hose neck.

I don't know much about visible identification of smog equipment, though so can't honestly tell you about that thing, what it is supposede to be for.

You are right, the horsepower ratings descriptions changed in (about) 1971.
I once had a old Kelly Bluebook a guy at a body shop gave me from around 1975 or something like that, you could see the different ones in it.

Not everyone knows that.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:54 PM
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Came out here from NY this time in 98

Well maybe its not the fan then
Just saw a thread where someone seemed to think it should have resisitance.

I did not want to turn it
it just did when I was atempting to vac the radiator
but I aborted that idea.

My camera is sos so
but it has a great flash & seems to excel at taking good shots from things I can't even see with my eyes

I just point it under the carriage & I get a pic of it in the dark

cool...

Now try to take pics of flowers or birds & its not so good...

I posted a pic of the rad
it does say Behr
has part number on it
think 126033
also had the paper tag on it

Enriques seems to think all the radiators are the same
when I asked him about the faulty neck.

I know about the HP as I had a 70 & it was a different hp
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:53 PM
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Whats a ECE RUF?
are these modifieds like AMG?

How do you identify them?

OOOOh 102 today
cooled down

PS Got into Benzworld


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Old 09-01-2007, 04:13 PM
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ECE = the best one, no catalytic

RUF = good , but less hp, and catalytic converter ready

KAT = obviously, has the Kat

At least this is how I understand it.

All of those were factory variations.

AMG was an aftermarket tuner, but the very best one, for Mercedes in the 80s. They built up three different versions of the 560 engine, and the top one was the DOHC 32 valve. About 375 hp in Euro trim.

I do not know the 500 variations, but they built a LOT of units, and raced one of them in SPA in 1989 (2 racers actually) = 1989 500SEC AMG euro.
One of them is in a museum in Germany today. I have seen pictures of it, and there is a little model of it you can get. I might get one some time, they are highly detailed, and I have one of a stock 560SEC they make. You get them from model stores in Germany that sell them on ebay Germany

AMG parts for these in incredible, sky high cost, and lots of fakes, but the real ones are worth their weight in gold.


"AMG" parts and cars are so valuable, that the name is put on regular ones and regular stuff just to falsely inflate the prices.

Benzworld hates fake AMG anything, and will call out any fraud they detect.

I am sure NurSpec, Jonathan, and Talbir would know if you get their attntion


Be a little careful on Benzworld, some of those boyz are pretty young and crazy and the some of the older ones are nasty and should know better

Have thin skin and ffs don't play up too much that you are a female over there!

The W126 specific knowlege is intense there, however. And it is world wide too, so lots of Euro information there, from people who have them, in Czecho, England, Germany, Australia, Canada, Estonia, etc.

Jonathan owns AMG East and really is friendly and helps people.

He can assist you in finding Euro parts when you need them, just e mail him
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:33 PM
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Wouldn't a US conversion put a cat on it anyway?

Has to be something more than cat or no cat

Again as I said its maybe the head but for sure cams.

Have to find the engine #

I would suppose I have a have a cat...

There is another cylider under the car...I thought that had to be the cat

My exhaust is sort of dual parallel
its seperate pipes running together
2 pipes going into muffler
two out

exhaust manifolds are sort of header design w each one on a exhaust port less back pressure than the amorphous US stock manifolds.

Hard to explain but lil better than the av US car...
Well its a Benz..

My bird is jealous
I;m sending more time on the car...
but I want to get to know it so I can become comfortable with it.

Since it really is a 305ci
it shouldn;t be as bad a gas lush as I thought.


well better go...

have a great day

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Old 09-01-2007, 05:12 PM
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The engine number is right there on the VMI (Vehicle Master Inquiry)

They have them for all the Euro cars. Might be harder or impossible go get a VMI for euros, keep checking the benzworld thread about that


Engine number is also provided on the factory build sheet, as I said, you can write to Stuttgart and ask for your (free) copy of it from the Mercedes Benz historical archives



Your car left the factory with whatever smog equipment was needed to sell them new in Germany. It did not need a catalytic converter in 1983.


The registered importer in California whose name is on the door sticker on your car would have had to have put a new catalytic on the car before it could have been smogged and licensed in California. Obviously, this was done with your car.

Not to mention, other smog equipment like EGR and whatever else the EPA demanded then.

Give the bird some quality time, they need it. They especially like to fly around in the house sometimes, they like the freedom. I kind of like the idea of one of them around here, and sometimes feel a little tempted.
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2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:22 PM
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He has his wings clipped
He has at time been flighted
he likes to sit on my head
Just not good for him to flyin kitchen esp when cooking

He's happy
got his omelet & potato this am
he gets lots good things
now h'es not so thrilled w seeds

LOL

Something like this would be nice
but I don't know a thing about offset or if they would fit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320152456192&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

My wheel r ok though
just have to get the key...

A SLK is a modern benz
think the older 126 is different than even your 126 wheel wise or at least it has been mentioned during my research

Then I would have to get tires

Not sure how wide my 205/55/16 are
So more $ when I'd rather use it to do the priorities

Still I'd like to learn what wheel will work well on mine...

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Old 09-01-2007, 08:08 PM
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He has his wings clipped
He has at time been flighted
he likes to sit on my head
Just not good for him to flyin kitchen esp when cooking

He's happy
got his omelet & potato this am
he gets lots good things
now h'es not so thrilled w seeds

LOL

Something like this would be nice
but I don't know a thing about offset or if they would fit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320152456192&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

My wheel r ok though
just have to get the key...

A SLK is a modern benz
think the older 126 is different than even your 126 wheel wise or at least it has been mentioned during my research

Then I would have to get tires

Not sure how wide my 205/55/16 are
So more $ when I'd rather use it to do the priorities

Still I'd like to learn what wheel will work well on mine...
If the birds wings are clipped it is easier on you I guess. They do like to sit on people's heads sometimes. When I was a boy ours used to ride on my mother's head when she pushed the vacuum around, it was pretty funny to see. The bird had too much freedom. Once I was lying on the ground at Christmas, just a boy painting his plastic model 1959 Dodge, from the kit.
The bird walked over to me and before I could stop, dipped her beak into the open little Testor's bottle of green paint. The bird had a green beak after that a long time but it was her own fault. It looked funny though.
I don't know if yours talks or not. Ours never did. But it loved my father so much!! It would scream every night when it heard the sound of my father's old '39 Studebaker coming up the hill after work at night. Even though by then, we'd had a cover on her cage.

It eats a lot better than I do. If I were a cockatiel I would ask if you are taking applications!


The SEC back in '83 had 14" wheels. From 1986 forward they were 15".

I was offered a set of vintage new 17' AMG Aero's, new in the box. But the problem is I don't want to run 17'. thought some people do. Especially the AMGs.

I think you are taking a chance buying used wheels like those take-offs on the ebay link. What is "normal wear and tear"? For San Francisco, for instance, that could mean a lot of rust, brake dust, and scraping and scuffing from the curbs. Maybe even cracks

The lady is offering the wheels at a good BIN price for four. If you liked them and there were no offset problems and you were comfortable with what she called "wear and tear" then, maybe OK. They even come with center caps already. Cheap enough for factory Mercedes wheels though. It would be essential to know how damaged they really were, and why they were sold.
Must be a reason.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:50 PM
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105 out there now!!


Too chancy
Like they could be bent
Maybe an accident

Ariz is pretty dry
but then again
I don't know what offset my car runs with
No sens to waste $
as they may not fit & they could leak like yours did
LOL

Ohhh he just got his Edame
its his night treat
he gets rice or peas...
sometimes corn
It really males them healthy to have more than seeds

His cage is clean & he got a bath today

He's part of the family & he's got it pretty good!



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Old 09-02-2007, 01:08 AM
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My car and my pet are demanding my attention!! What to do?

Neat snapshot!!! Now there's a team


It seems to me you are being pulled in two directions at once, as you are being called to look after your new car in the garage, while the cockatiel is resentful that you are away from him.

After long and careful deliberation, I have come up with what I feel might be a singularly appropriate solution to this conundrum.


I would suggest that you take a nice drive in the car, with the windows up and sunroof closed, and the bird riding in the carr as your passenger, on your shoulder or maybe even on your head, as you are not tall and there could be enough head room.


~~~thereby killing two birds with one stone (sorry for the unfortunate choice of words)


.....and by so doing, thereby providing a sense of companionship for the one, and a sense of direction for the other.


See, your friends at Mercedesshop can help with all manner of problems relating to Mercedes.
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:50 AM
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I'm afraid the benz might have too much exhaust
He has a carrier but he's not too thrilled to be confined...

Just too hot
Want to test the AC
yet I know that also taxes the temperature issue

Will just have to take the time to resolve it right

Rome wasn't built in a day..
Or was that Berlin...

I think he'd make a nice hood ornament



11 PM & its 93 degrees!!!!

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Old 09-02-2007, 02:19 AM
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Maybe a quick drive out for an early breakfast, and run the aircon for awhile?

Sometimes when they aren't run for a long time, as like when your car sat someplace for a couple of years, isn't good for them, and the seals can get dried out, and cause leaks.--trouble in the receiver drier, evaporator.

It's very possible the car was withdrawn from service, and replaced with something newer, and the dealer refused to accept it as a trade in, by offering a rediculous price for it on the trade in (say $200) and the owner took it back home and simply parked it someplace on the property and pretty much ignored it. After a couple of years of paying insurance and license fees, or non-opped it, maybe he got disgusted with seeing it hanging around and simply donated it away and got the tax deduction for it....maybe...

Cynically thinking, that "charity" is not something you "give", but rather, something you "deduct" lol

It is hot as hell up here also. Though yesterday, amazingly, there was light sprinkles, and just enough to spot up the dust all over the car. By tues. it should by the mid 90s again - if you can call that "cool"

Some San Francisco breezes would be welcome: incredibly, this is their coldest time of the year. the wind blows over the city from water on 3 sides that surround it. It is pretty nice, there
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:55 AM
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I find taking a car to the shop is always expensive.
Labor is labor.
Parts are naother thing but other than that
Costs just as much to maintain & do routine to a low end car as does a quality car.

Still, I have to think saving $2000 on a older model might mean spending more in the end to fix it up.

Thanks

PS I am getting 14 city on my Volvo 17 tops HW maybe 25
that was 8 yrs ago
mileage stinks on the car
esp for a 4 cylinder it really is a lush

Wow I get 22-28 with my 90 745 TI and 26-33 on my 88 244 DL with a five speed manual.
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A few days won't make a difference


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