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Old 08-09-2001, 10:40 PM
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Of course MB's rattle. If you don't like a car that rattles buy a Honda. My 97 C has many odd noises in the cabin that should'nt be there. But consider this. Where else can you spend so much money on service/ repairs which contribute to a healthy economy?
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Old 08-10-2001, 01:27 AM
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CLK430 In shop too many times

I have a 99 CLK430 and a fist full of repair invoices. This is my first Mecedes and I am embarrassed by the number of times I have been in with warranty work. I have the squeaks from the seats, the bad fuel gauges (3 Times), the bad CD (2 times changers), the check engine lights, squeaky door stops. They replaced the door stop on the driver door with one that is not painted as the original and said that I should paint it with touch up paint as the factory would not cover the cost of painting it. Theres more: Faulty rear defroster, radio, replaced console, ignition switch and the list goes on. It seems that every time it is in at the dealer they screw up something else.
I think they are producing too many models and not keeping the quality control up to standards.
I am ready to file a lemon law claim

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Old 08-10-2001, 09:28 AM
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Over Production?

Curious about the history of my '88 300e, I went to the library and found an edition of "auto guide" from 1988 featuring the "new" cars from that year, descriptions, the whole shot. The production history for MB and the 300e was featured and may have a bearing on the current state of MB quality control.

Apparently, the first 300e's to roll out of Stuttgart met with excellent sales and the decision was made to increase production to 600,000 units. MB had "prided" itself in traditionally limiting, not increasing, production inferring that the faster they crank them out the crappier they get (and lower in cost, higher profit). This would not bother most car manufacturers who might cover it by either generous warranties or lowering the price, afforded by the $$$ savings of a productivity gain, but when MB began getting an unusual number of complaints on the 300e, "draconian" measures were introduced to ensure that every car was up to MB standards, and that production would never be incresed after the fact again. This was 1988.

If the history is true, then Id surmise that internicene warfare broke out between the upstart MBA's coming into MB and the old guard. The old guard is now retired or dead. The great MB tradition of quality persists, but few to defend it at the top levels, hence MB must now re-learn from bitter experience? TYhis is all speculation, of course, and does not solve new MB owners problems save voice your disgust and make MB repent!
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Old 08-10-2001, 09:52 AM
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The sad thing is that when people think of expensive cars they think Mercedes and when they think Quality they think Mercedes. It won't be long before they start to get a reputation for poor quality. I know a service writer that was working for Mercedes and has since gone to Lexus and he said that MB was having a huge amount of warranty problems. With the new series of autos.

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